How to correctly sign and label lottery product?

[тандем]

Сообщение от sur; 1475461"

Me with one of the artists, the promotion of which I am now starting to deal with, it was decided to manufacture replicable copies of three of his paintings before the upcoming exhibition. How to sign (on top of an existing signature on the reverse side, a marker or butter) and label (number of copies) limited edition prints? Can the size of prints vary slightly from the originals?
At what other points in the manufacture of lottery products is worth paying attention to?

Ie you have identified several successful works that can be bought and decided to make copies of them at affordable tsenam.Tak say, not for the collection, and for interera.S a marketing standpoint, the decision pravilnoe.O format is better to consult with the designers, but in any case it should not at times differ from the original.
On these copies behind write legibly and indelibly, that - is a copy made such and such a way with the original picture. And then all the details originala.Ukazhite number of copies made (of course, the smaller the better < ! - ~ 1 ~ - "). "Certify" and the signature hudozhnika.Nekotorye make more certificates. It is beautiful and adds solidity

[artcol]

Сообщение от tandem

From a marketing standpoint, the decision correct.

Agreed.

Atte.
Sur, and you'll replicate oil or graphics?

[sur]

Сообщение от artcol

SW. Sur, and you'll replicate oil or graphics?

 Oil on canvas.

Сообщение от tandem

On these copies behind write legibly and indelibly, that - this is a copy made such and such a way with the original picture. And then all the details originala.Ukazhite number of copies made (of course, the less the better). "Certify" and the signature hudozhnika.Nekotorye make more certificates. It is beautiful and adds solidity

 I think that is good advice. Thank you artcol and tandem.
 Thanks and all the other panellists.

 Can you clarify something about the certificates? How are they doing and how they look?
 It turns out to make a good copy is not so simple. For many prints had to hack to death, then the color, the contrast of something wrong. Now try to do in Moscow.
  Pictures I've hit, and looked a hundred percent semdyasyat "squeal" with delight (I'm among them).
 In addition to copies of copyright, what else can come up with replication? Where are the pictures traders posters? Probably going to try and get to IKEA.
 And most importantly do not go past royalties ...

[Seriy]

sur, you've all finally find out, let me know. As I understand it, giclee, very expensive. My pictures in the original cost less than giclee with them :-) I would just do a large-format printing on paper or cloth banner. Will cost a hundred rubles A1 size - it is when wholesale and good search, and into the first announcing and 500 and 800 USD per unit. T e when typing a substantial amount, the more economical to buy large-format printer and print yourself. Thus, by the way, you avoid leakage. And then You give the file and where is the guarantee that they themselves did not leave and do not popolzuyutsya if it as good as you describe ...

[artcol]

Сообщение от sur

Oil on canvas.

 I think that is good advice. Thank you artcol and tandem.
 Thanks and all the other panellists.

 Can you clarify something about the certificates? How are they doing and how they look?
 It turns out to make a good copy is not so simple. For many prints had to hack to death, then the color, the contrast of something wrong. Now try to do in Moscow.
  Pictures I've hit, and looked a hundred percent semdyasyat "squeal" with delight (I'm among them).
 In addition to copies of copyright, what else can come up with replication? Where are the pictures traders posters? Probably going to try and get to IKEA.
 And most importantly do not go past royalties ...

Certificate - a form with text descriptions of painting and photography, as well as information about who issued it. Make a certificate can be to your taste, you can with the elements of firms. style. Eats, but he decibels solid appearance.

Posters prints the organization, to-I signed a contract with a museum or other holder image.
In Samara, a company AGNI-art, it just focuses on this. Or find a good photographer from the VIP segment - it has a good db printing equipment.

Painting on paper does not make sense to print. Prints on paper are used because of their cheapness to process any obsch.mest so that the next time you change the interior design was sorry they did not throw, you have another problem, as I understand it.

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Сообщение от Seriy

T e when typing a substantial amount, the more economical to buy large-format printer and print yourself.
Thus, by the way, you avoid leakage.
And then You give the file and where is the guarantee that they themselves did not leave and do not popolzuyutsya if it as good as you describe ...

In fact it is so.

[sur]

Сообщение от artcol; 1480941"

Painting on paper does not make sense to print. Prints on paper are used because of their cheapness to process any obsch.mest so that the next time you change the interior design was sorry they did not throw, you have another problem, as I understand it.

 I want to print a copy on the canvas. Have even made a few, but arranged only the quality of copies from one of the paintings.
 For a start I think, to make copies of five with each picture, then print additional yet, but circulation still limited (number of copies with the author's signature has not yet determined).
  I think both would be correct with respect to the artist. I mean replicating a promotion.
 How else would be if an artist does not repeat, and paintings like many ?......

[artcol]

Сообщение от sur

I want to print a copy on the canvas. Have even made a few, but arranged only the quality of copies from one of the paintings.
 For a start I think, to make copies of five with each picture, then print additional yet, but circulation still limited (number of copies with the author's signature has not yet determined).
  I think both would be correct with respect to the artist. I mean replicating a promotion.
 How else would be if an artist does not repeat, and paintings like many ?......

No sense to restrict the circulation - You do not expect much from this raise the price? Especially if it goes on sale at IKEA.
The only thing with the author's signature to do just part of the work (no more than 5-10), and sell them more expensive. The more expensive the price itself will limit the circulation
And about the prints - it is normal practice, it is useful for publicity, and do not listen to reactionaries - the 21 st century living.
If not a secret, you can reset the photo to vns1976@mail.ru - very curious.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от "sur

How else would be if an artist does not repeat, and paintings like many ?......

Write a new good pictures.


Circulation numbered reproductions, in the end - this image losses.

[fabosch]

Сообщение от Seriy

In the above case, you have one owner-author of a photo, they can be the museum, and may not be. Let the heirs and justify suing.

From the authors of the photo problem is not that complicated. If you talk about of two-dimensional images (paintings, graphics), then there arises the copyright to retake, especially now there are enough large-format scanners - all of them can be written off, so the photographer in this scheme falls, as serves as a purely technical function

Сообщение от Seriy

IMHO, getting a job, you do not get the right author is the general situation, the status quo of the source. It is like buying sausage at the store, you will not get a patent for its manufacture. Furthermore, copyright law does not legally transferred, m e the author of the work is always the same and unchangeable. Contract may be directed to specific ways of publishing, broadcasting, specified in the Act, subject to specified conditions and for a certain period t e entitlements.

Read carefully my post, I did not write the words "copyright" - that vague term for the matter you are using. I wrote about property rights and the rights to use (as stated in the copyright law). Moral rights involve, including what you write, for example, the right to call the author of this work. These rights neutchuzhdaemye. According to the law can not be bought. Should I discuss these platitudes.
And it is not necessary for this conversation to attract restitution. This is a very different matter.

This, in essence that the 30-40-50, etc. years ago there was no addition of copyright law, which we interpret today. Consequently, it is unclear whether the supposed laws of physical sales of an artist selling his work right to use it (ie, reproduction, performance, transmission by wire, etc.)
This, in my opinion, a question to which no general answer to the law.

Сообщение от Seriy

I am not a lawyer, but like in 2008 all contract on the property copyright must be reissued under the new Civil Code. If not renewed, shall be considered void.

Thus, all museums can rusk - I doubt that they were doing. So imagine how they hand back all that ha bought the last 50-70 years < "- ~ 7 ~ ->

Сообщение от Seriy

What museum? More precisely, the publishing organization as an organization ... .. out model, which removed the girl, then redrawn for chocolate "Alenka" gained their rights through 30, and it's not even the author, as a model and not a photo.
TV and radio pay, and publishers will not pay? be.

So far, publishers are paying museums. Ce la vie ...

[Seriy]

Alas, in our country and abroad, copyrights are also sold.
The same song can be sold with copyright, EM, and simply agree to write-songwriter instead Ivanov Petrov and all royalties will receive further Petrov. Is called a buy-song "with giblets, EM copyright. This is done, of course, before the publication of the work.
Hirst painting for writing other artists are hired by contract, and signed by Hurst.

fabosch, about the museum, saying simply, do not you try, do not know. If you have rights and they are on contemporary law is violated, then the fight can be. But the court, it is so dreary and expensive, and royalties in the publishing business, such wretched, that makes no sense to spend a million-to get a penny. Like Last time I published the picture for the money I paid 200-400 rubles apiece in the publication of a large circulation, will not clear. Considered necessary. There will be a precedent of mass replication, and a precedent will pay the author of pictures.

The West is a business, the Fund Picasso thrive. Picasso circulate everywhere, deductions-fund.

By the way, a precedent with chocolate "Alenka" - exactly the case you describe, a long-standing business, the Soviet Union, during the absence of law, of course, there were no contracts. And nothing won.