How to unleash the artist

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Сообщение от Pavel

. All the outstanding artists of the Union, as amateurs , they are the amateurs , it is anger , envy , etc.

Just 20 years ago changed the civil law , and oversees the organization of the totalitarian state CX turned into an ordinary corporation . Now anyone can create and register your CX , adding to the name " Union of Artists " at least one character. I analyzed a few years ago on extracts from the register as such new alliances. It turned out , if I remember, 753.

[Pablo]

DSF, let me know.
You belong to a union of artists?
So I would, for example, happy to have entered into it.
Among other things, it is also a sort of a Clube interest, why not?

[Seriy]

Pablo, by the way, do you know about autumn exhibitions of artists of Ukraine in Lviv House of Artists on the Square in Kiev?
There, anyone can come if hudsovet will work.

[Pablo]

Seriy, an exhibition devoted to the Day of the artist?
I know there will be such.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от DSF; 2709211"

And Paul got room for free, nothing is wasted, nothing ventured, (only in the queue defended three years). Minus him, only he did not yet understand. He's better than you? The fact that he tysyachadevyatsot shaggy-year received the "crust" of the state, which is on the world map anymore?

Clear! This one is not in the union, and on rbotam he does not shine. Without a lot of fans. With a portrait of "Tanya" only on the waterfront. To this "hflyavu" earn to prove that you do something and do not know how ladies Nesvedov of Menotepa and professionals. This is for the commission. Well, yes, he knows if gossip collected, but it appears elsewhere.

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Сообщение от Keeper dill 2709191

GalARTA, how, then, to be an artist with a statement? I look at artnau .. Many hung out a few hundred works, and sales gulkin nose like fingers on the first hand. And they hang over the years with a price tag of 30
up to 75,000 ... and no one takes, for dearly.
What should I do to them? Wait for the 2nd coming of <! - ~ 1 ~ ->?
And another caveat .. artists live not only in the capitals, it is unlikely you rounding a small town and industrial communities to witness them your respect and professional attention <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.

What a pity that all who knows ... what to do and how, are already working taxi drivers and hairdressers.

Tell me, you are the artist himself or what?
This dill on you so affected, pissimizm. Do not try to become a guardian of daisies and brighten all at once.

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Сообщение от DSF

Artem, well done, you are correctly written. In general, nothing to add <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
But where's all: in museums and auctions. Here a reference, check out -
You are such prices and in 100 years to be seen! <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

With regard to the Union of Artists. This, of course, a separate issue. In short, it is a vicious organization that was invented by the Communists for control of the creative people through the creation of hierarchies and bleed them together. It must be dissolved, workshops or even buy out the lease at commercial prices, as it is done all over the world. Will be immediately clear who was an artist, and who is a slacker. And then divorced these "Astrakhan Mazilu" ... and each workshop submit. And he would sit there and rub the endless "walls of the ancient Kremlin" and hang them with an air of importance in a free room. What kind of art development in Russia then you can talk about?
The movement should be from the bottom. Artists will want to join voluntarily, based on creative principles - well, do not want - do not. And when the feeder and "raspredelilovka" - nothing good will.

Confessions of an amateur. The Union of Artists was founded before the Revolution. <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
First, you need to be an artist, then you recognize that for raspredelilovka, but it does not threaten you.
In general revelation DeFuSa is nonsense frightened mediocrity Dima Fedorov.
Portrait clumsily copied from the photo and copied Spring and Cranach the poor. It is not even commerce is a bazaar. There is copied from others, even with Picasso, but no artist Dima federova, while such aplomb. <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[Fed]

Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2709191"

hung out a lot of several hundred works, and sales gulkin nose like a finger on the first hand. And they hang over the years with a price tag of 30
up to 75,000 ... and no one takes, for dearly.
What should I do to them? Wait for the 2nd Coming?

Stories that no market Arts in Sovdepiia wrong.
Just view it fully complies with the economy, there are real members, major artists and galleries who know, a good auction.

All around there is an economic ripple-set any artists that are equivalent incompetent entrepreneurs who appear and disappear, and useless galleries that are not even able to hire good salespeople. Repair, weighing and jailed artist trading, which irritates the visitors by its very existence.
Galleries are a couple of years lost and unwanted painters fetus to unnecessary work. Sometimes something will sell before sending it to oblivion.

Nothing new or different kind of conventional economics, with its producers, distributors and trading centers.

Therefore unsold "artists" do not have to wait for the coming of, and sent to the service. How did their pre-revolutionary predecessors, combining the work of art somewhere. Or maloudachlivye entrepreneurs now, departing after the collapse of the service.

And realize that being a nobody, to sell his painting of two nerve-average salaries, contrary to the practice of the rest of the world.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Sad ending of this popular theme with a very intriguing name How to promote the artist.

Sad, but it seems to me, is logical: all those who had something to say, have spoken a few times new players with the same issues raised subject, they were told, but every time shorter and simpler, and only the current state of the topic I Recalls news from Miami: author of family harmony « How to save a marriage » killed his wife and posted on Facebook a photo of the corpse .

Very precisely, if you look at who is now the topic discusses how to promote artist's lovers, amateurs, resentful public inattention and lack of customer self-proclaimed member Union yes, but unrecognized "tax consultant."

And these shoemaker without shoes void sumnyashesya someone else some advice sagely given, with someone with an important expression argue with something out there do not agree ...

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Everything. End of topic.

... a doctor! Heal thyself: and here in your own country, what we have heard done in Capernaum.
bow., 4:23.

And the picture showing the current state of the theme: just ugly, but with the pathos, aplomb and cheerful optimism yunoshestkim amateur:

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Fed

Tales of the fact that there is no market in the Arts Sovdepiia wrong.
Just view it fully complies with the economy, there are real members, major artists and galleries who know, a good auction.

All around there is an economic ripple-set any artists that are equivalent incompetent entrepreneurs who appear and disappear, and useless galleries that are not even able to hire good salespeople. Repair, weighing and jailed artist trading, which irritates the visitors by its very existence.
Galleries are a couple of years lost and unwanted painters fetus to unnecessary work. Sometimes something will sell before sending it to oblivion.

Nothing new or different kind of conventional economics, with its producers, distributors and trading centers.

Therefore unsold "artists" do not have to wait for the coming of, and sent to the service. How did their pre-revolutionary predecessors, combining the work of art somewhere. Or maloudachlivye entrepreneurs now, departing after the collapse of the service.

And realize that being a nobody, to sell his painting of two nerve-average salaries, contrary to the practice of the rest of the world.

Here's how it, and who will appreciate who goes where. What to do with Van Gogh, the Impressionists everyone there. With the great French art, what to do. Got a little when buying pereinachennye copies, then this is art.
Dear art is much more serious than you think. This capital investment, the realm of redistribution of capital, the most convenient form of conservation. And you thought it was just beautiful? Buy, no one stops, but the command in this field-professionals.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Sad ending of this popular theme with a very intriguing name How to promote the artist.

Sad, but it seems to me, is logical: all those who had something to say, have spoken a few times new players with the same issues raised subject, they were told, but every time shorter and simpler, and only the current state of the topic I Recalls news from Miami: author of family harmony « How to save a marriage » killed his wife and posted on Facebook a photo of the corpse .

Very precisely, if you look at who is now the topic discusses how to promote artist's lovers, amateurs, resentful public inattention and lack of customer self-proclaimed member Union yes, but unrecognized "tax consultant."

And these shoemaker without shoes void sumnyashesya someone else some advice sagely given, with someone with an important expression argue with something out there do not agree ...

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Everything. End of topic.



And the picture showing the current state of the theme: just ugly, but with the pathos, aplomb and cheerful optimism yunoshestkim amateur:

This COP is you pompously trying to discover something and something close. Others simply have fun and express their opinions. You are our important.
Picture is good, he drew? Just do not Dima.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Pavel; 2709571 "

Confessions of an amateur . The Union of Artists was established even before the revolution .

Can be more?

Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2709191"

GalARTA, how, then, to be an artist with a different wording of the question ?

You often ask or answer questions on the forum where people have not, and we can be closer to the audience ?

Сообщение от Fed; 2709611 "

And all around is the set of economic ripples are no artists that are equivalent incompetent entrepreneurs who appear and disappear , and useless galleries that are not even able to hire good salespeople . Repair , weighing and jailed artist trading, which irritates the visitors by its very existence .
Galleries are a couple of years lost and unwanted painters fetus to unnecessary work. Sometimes something will sell before sending it to oblivion .

Fed, but let's shoot them all ?

Сообщение от Pablo; 2709441 "

is also a sort of a Clubeinterest

Clube <! - ~ 7 ~ -> interest ?
Pablo, you do not want to get there , you do not respect this initially . Subconscious says - " not necessary" , and consciousness - " it is necessary, there is in fact something to give !"))

[Fed]

Сообщение от Pavel; 2709661"

This is how they, and who appreciate who goes where. What to do with Van Gogh, the Impressionists everyone there. With the great French art, what to do. Got a little when buying pereinachennye copies, then this is art.

We're not talking about French art, but about sovdepovskom. And even more - not about Van Gogh. Remember to have his name. And the other geniuses.
He died before the 40-and did not draw any rubbish after.

I look sometimes disintegrated paintings. Often, it is visible after the dead, there is a pack of very good work. In general, the misconception that drew only Socialist Realism. Full of Post-Impressionism, the avant-garde elements ... BUT, sometimes I write down the names particularly liked. And such bad luck, even those who worked in the 60's and 70's, will not always find even a mention. And those who worked in the 30-muffled at all.
That is, People simply disappeared, although high-quality, it is clear that the explicit professionals. And the prices are now: 300 - 800. And you can bargain.
And what to say about the somewhat unusual artists. After 50 years, just emptiness. And the loss of money, buyers will be on the bazaars to the "preservation of capital" in the opinion of Pavel.

In general, remember to French painting and much, especially Van Gogh.
Here, not there. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
And Modernism 150-year-old is not related to the hundreds of thousands of banal mazilok. Even if they are currently in the passport of a pen will write Van Gogh.

Сообщение от Artem; 2709681"

Fed, let's shoot them all?

Why, even further pollute the canvas. After unsuccessful entrepreneurs do not shoot, peace on them. all the same.