Mark Rothko

[vg_edger]

Сообщение от Jasmin

a mystery to me in another - why almost at the peak of fame , famous and expensive artist committed suicide , and in an age when we explain this extreme step reckless, impulsive , or desperation is difficult. (The fact that drinking is not an explanation .) Also, and Nicolas de Stael - out of the window

The reason is simple . Degenerate Art - Art , this degeneracy , degeneration , and the devil - are one and the same , and the devil is prone to self-destruction. "The prince of this world" Klimov read , there is much to ponder.

[Toinen]

Сообщение от Jasmin; 2316751"

mystery to me in another - why almost at the peak of fame , famous and expensive artist committed suicide , and in an age when we explain this extreme step reckless, impulsive , or desperation is difficult. (The fact that drinking is not an explanation .) Also, and Nicolas de Stael - out of the window in front of his major exhibition in the United States , which, undoubtedly, would have brought success and money ... Why ?

A marketing ploy ! Dead artist is more expensive.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от vg_edger

and the devil is prone to self-destruction.
"To

And why did you decide that the devil is prone to self-destruction?
Looking at the business world, are not.

[vg_edger]

Сообщение от K-Maler

And why did you decide that the devil is prone to self-destruction?
Looking at the business world, you will not tell.

http://g-klimov.info/klimov-psm/PSM-21.htm


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[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Eriksson; 2317001"

I'm sorry, but the sculptor yet - to on Nenets .

Sergei T. in 1905 bought Brownings and led the working squad, which defended the barricade at the restaurant "Prague ", and the sculptor was strong - up to the age controversy bent coin. And cockroaches around the Hero of Socialist Labor, beat his wife - an agent of the NKVD.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Jasmin; 2316751"

why almost at the peak of fame, famous and expensive artist committed suicide, and in an age when we explain this extreme step reckless, impulsive, or desperation is difficult. (The fact that drinking is not an explanation.) Likewise, Nicolas de Stael - out of the window in front of his major exhibition in the United States, which, undoubtedly, would have brought success and money ... Why?
I assume that in front of these great artists at some point in their life has opened in all nakedness absolute irrationality of so-called real world ..

Yes it is, this "irrationality of the world," all normal people opened about 16 years. Or at 14.
Another question.
If you devote your life to the promotion of the "irrationality" as modernists do, you can go to the bad, that's true.
Because you are part of this world, but you choose a world in which you live, and if you prove about the world that he is "irrational", this world overwhelms you and obey you.
The world that you've created.
Well and accordingly no desire to live in this world.
Therefore suicide of friends - the last (and I'm afraid the only) creative act in their lives.

[zarajara]

Сообщение от vg_edger

The reason is simple. Degenerate Art - Art, this degeneracy, degeneration, and the devil - are one and the same, and the devil is prone to self-destruction. "The prince of this world" Klimov read, there is much to consider.

You have a strange build proofs in which each premise at least questionable, or simply absurd.
1.C What makes you think that the art of Rothko's "degenerate" (we're talking about it, and not "all")? What you saw degenerative in red, blue, white? Are you sure you understand the meaning of this word? On the work of Rothko wrote much, including here, that this is not art, it's an experiment, and so on, but the word "degenerate" here does not apply.
2. Next you build the identity of "degeneracy and the devil - are one and the same." That is from the beginning of time, the devil - it stimulates the degenerated or degeneration (if it is based on your language)?
3. Why should we waste time on Klimov, if it is already based on your quote writes nonsense? Somewhere there is "evidence that the devil is prone to self-destruction" (also my Samurai), and most importantly, where is the Rothko?

[Konstantin]

vg_edger, why is post links to all this nonsense?
There is something to say to you personally on the subject - say.

Сообщение от zarajara

What makes you think that the art of Rothko's "degenerate"

Thanks for the good question.

[vg_edger]

Сообщение от zarajara

You have a strange construction of the evidence, in which each premise at least questionable, or simply absurd.
1.C What makes you think that the art of Rothko's "degenerate" (we're talking about it, and not "all")? What you saw degenerative in red, blue, white? Are you sure you understand the meaning of this word? On the work of Rothko wrote much, including here, that this is not art, it's an experiment, and so on, but the word "degenerate" here does not apply.
2. Next you build the identity of "degeneracy and the devil - are one and the same." That is from the beginning of time, the devil - it stimulates the degenerated or degeneration (if it is based on your language)?
3. Why should we waste time on Klimov, if it is already based on your quote writes nonsense? Somewhere there is "evidence that the devil is prone to self-destruction" (also my Samurai), and most importantly, where is the Rothko?

1. In the red-blue-and-white stripes nothing wrong. But if you call it art, then my new striped shirt with the same success can be called beautiful masterpiece. Or the same strip, a long established guest worker roller on the fence.

2. Devil - it's not the devil with horns and hooves, sitting on a cloud. Devil - is an allegorical image symbolizing a dark, destructive force that unites the various perverts and degenerates.

That's just about them says in the Bible:
"For he said unto him, Come, thou unclean spirit out of the man. And he asked him, What is thy name? 'And he answered and said, My name is Legion, for we are many."

3. I do not agree with some vzgyada Klimova, but a grain of truth in his arguments are. Rothko is despite the fact that he did in fact destroying the normal art, slipping the release of their infamous garbage. The problem is that human nature is such that some do not even seem to be stupid people begin to take it all at face value, and even themselves become advocates of this "art", then begin to act even more complex psychological mechanisms, and after a while the black is white.

Look at the portraits Borovikovsky and compare them with daubs Rothko and other deviants from art. Or compare here with this masterpiece:

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от Igor Guryev , 2317261"

If you devote your life to the promotion of the " irrationality " as modernists do , you can go to the bad , it is true .

Art is inherently irrational ! A Rothko and De became engaged in this art, and it is really dangerous.

Сообщение от Igor Guryev , 2317261"

So these fellows suicide - the last ( and I'm afraid the only) creative act in their lives.

It is strange that such a write on the forum on art < - 8 ~ ~ ->