Single feature ranking

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от fabosch

How come, in my opinion, you totally got and questions and suggestions
And I still have unanswered questions. Reproduce them again.
1. Have you discussed the possibility of official distribution exp in electronic version. It's quite modern mechanism demanded pay information dissemination. For example, on artinvestment so there is a database of sales.
Moreover, because it is clear that the future belonged to such a channel, not the paper, because the greater the amount of information, so inconvenient paper.
2. Is there anything in your official access basic statistical data on the distribution of artists by category, even if generalized (category 1A - 300 artists, 1B - 200, 2A - 2000, etc.), I am not talking about lists, grouped not alphabetically and by category (it actually is your commercial know-how that protects you as the apple of an eye).

1) discussed more than once. I already wrote about it. It is immediately published throughout the sites in search engines will rise above the official website of EXP, and update the information there is no will. The outcome will placheven. Here is still for many the 5 th edition - the ultimate truth, because he once appearing in Ineta
2) You will need such data? Can they prepare specifically for this forum, only justify, please, why not to do zryashnuyu job and not get into a situation of Section 1.

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Сообщение от klimvor

Employment of this rare and brilliant artist, at 4 A, URA

So, too, will not do. What an artist, how long a job? You never know, and have been unsuccessful work of genius? The artist is not the rating by one job.

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Сообщение от K-Maler

That's not right. And the names can cause: all know each other ...
And this should be called Rating Rating ZAGRAEVSKY, and not a single rating (this claim is unfounded). Moreover, that "copyright in the concept has SV Zagraevsky" (quote from the "standard" 5 issue).
Generally, the rights to ideas and concepts are not protected by copyright ...

1) So you think N. Vorobiev, L. Gribkov, D. Groman, B. Zhutovski, A. Colley, L. Metchnikoff, V. Preobrazhenskaya, MV Sapozhnikov, Leonid Rabichev, V. Shors and other belyutintsy ( number in the dozens) should be in the same category? Of course, I will convey to the RC is your opinion, but personally, I categorically disagree. These were different artists back in belyutinsky period, and then the way many of them went all drastically.

2) The copyright concept is really not protected (Article 6 of the Act), but the author of the concept of EXP, however, Zagraevsky <!--~ 1 "-" for nothing here that is just lazy has not spoken on the subject of that SV dreamed of categories A and B?

[Grigory]

Сообщение от "Inquisitive

You Naham.

Naham woman.

...

I believe that you as an honest man, must apologize to Olga Ozolina you have admitted for the harshness of expressions.

Paul, another boorish message here, and we leave for two weeks at least with you ...

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от Fed

I have not figured out how to honor and dignity of thousands? "artists depend on the attitude of professional people to the rating. If we are talking about your "union", he even does not collect contributions and linking artists to it is only in principle, "send your vystovok catalogs, photographs of works ,..." we have you in the ranking introduced. Ie whole procedure is aimed at obtaining materials for the ranking. Artists and send to somehow light up later.

The attitude of someone to a "union" of either heat or cold. Sent materials and forgotten. One target for promotion more. And an extra piece of paper on the country's membership in the paper can not hurt.
  But the organizers of the "network" is a base that you can show your state authorities, "for us thousands of artists." We-Hoo! Well done, worthy of the organizers.
But we are not government bodies, why should we raise the status of the representation of employees.

P.S. But thank you - about the "honor" of fun. As presented, as "intemperate" language Pavla threatens the honor of thousands of artists ... Oh and the monster he.

I'm in front of you should report on the work that makes the PSC? About our work on the legal protection of artists who exhibit work of our sections in the set regoionov Russia, our work with the Ministry of Culture and the State Duma to improve the legislation? Sorry, I will not. If you are so interested, can join the PSC (if you take selection committee) and arrive at the reporting-election meeting.

And for all the members of the forum will give an example:
Thanks ZAGRAEVSKY we do not take admission in PSC membership dues, because for many, 50-100 rubles per year - a lot of money. So - please: there was a man, who gave us a reproach! "Even contributions were not going to

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Just got a letter in the RC.
I do not know where to post it on the forum, so here:

October 6 tragically died painter Andrei Tal.
Funeral service in the Church

Nicholas in Klennikah, Maroseyka d.5.
October 13 to 13 hours.

God rest his soul!

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Let's distinctly, and then in the welter of difficult to understand the meaning.
- Do you want to remove your name from the ranking because dissatisfied with their ranking in it?
- To raise the rating to be paid? You suggest?
If this is true (rating fee) then surely this must know someone else from the artists, one vote (even yours) is not enough to make sure that it is.
- If somewhere an article about your work and it has many critics, what are you doing? Need not to print? We put the question more broadly: - can someone assess the level of the artist in general, do you.

The fact that nobody was going to evaluate or even acquainted with my works. I've just 4 repeat what I have in this book just for bills. I think on my experience of many. That's what disgusts me. Journalists have not written about me critically damning articles only positively, while they were very honorable people.
I do not matter in what position I'm in this book is because based on the foregoing, I believe this thing is completely empty and useless, only commercial publications, where my name along with other exploited for commercial purposes.
In fact, I think this is so obvious, it is strange that it is necessary explains.

[fabosch]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

you need such data? Can they prepare specifically for this forum, only justify, please, why not to do zryashnuyu job and not get into a situation of Section 1.

No thanks, it interested me out of pure curiosity, but if you need to specially prepare - do not. Although, if such data were instituted in any spreadsheet, then sort them by any indicator - this is an elementary operation. However, you can see ...

[Konstantin]

Pavel

You are told their outrage loud enough on it - everything.

Further their claims to EXP solve offline.

[Любознательный]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

What a rare beauty of delirium

Every profession has its own language - professional slang.
I'm glad that you did not understand the essence phrases mentioned her beauty.

In earlier times, the highest rating had huzhozhniki - Lenin Prize.
However, in those times ignored and the skill of the artist.
In EXP dazhi not talking about the seasoned professional skill of each of these artists in it, although it is implemented well-known principle: " Every cricket, stick to your hearth ".
With the return of Russia to the administrative-command system availability EXP means its introduction into circulation as the only-possible "correct" assessment of each of the living artists.
To my regret, EXP is used by professionals (art critics, museum workers, evaluators, etc.). The implications of this use, in my opinion, may be sad and to cause damage to the development of Russian painting.
I believed and believe that the level of seasoned professional skill can not be assessed objectively on the basis of subjective data that do not have practically nothing to do with the results of the artist.
I believed and believe that membership in the SC, the availability of exhibitions often does not reflect the actual level of skill.

It is for these reasons I have a few posts in that topic (as shown in your phrase) object strenuously OF EXP as an almost institutionalized order assessing the level of each enrolled him in art.
And nothing more.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Let's distinctly, and then in the welter of difficult to understand the meaning.
- Do you want to remove your name from the ranking because dissatisfied with their ranking in it?
- To raise the rating to be paid? You suggest?
If this is true (rating fee) then surely this must know someone else from the artists, one vote (even yours) is not enough to make sure that it is.
- If somewhere an article about your work and it has many critics, what are you doing? Need not to print? We put the question more broadly: - can someone assess the level of the artist in general, do you.

It's not about the article and have a specified rating.

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Сообщение от Inquisitive

Every profession has its own language - professional slang.
I'm glad that you did not understand the essence phrases mentioned her beauty.

In earlier times, the highest rating had huzhozhniki - Lenin Prize.
However, in those times ignored and the skill of the artist.
In EXP dazhi not talking about the seasoned professional skill of each of these artists in it, although it is implemented well-known principle: " Every cricket, stick to your hearth ".
With the return of Russia to the administrative-command system availability EXP means its introduction into circulation as the only-possible "correct" assessment of each of the living artists.
To my regret, EXP is used by professionals (art critics, museum workers, evaluators, etc.). The implications of this use, in my opinion, may be sad and to cause damage to the development of Russian painting.
I believed and believe that the level of seasoned professional skill can not be assessed objectively on the basis of subjective data that do not have practically nothing to do with the results of the artist.
I believed and believe that membership in the SC, the availability of exhibitions often does not reflect the actual level of skill.

It is for these reasons I have a few posts in that topic (as shown in your phrase) object strenuously OF EXP as an almost institutionalized order assessing the level of each enrolled him in art.
And nothing more.

Pictures should look and not one but over a period of time vremeni.Odin can set someone else's work, you can enter into an alliance with other people's work, but work at a high level, it is impossible to borrow. Bird seen in flight.

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от Inquisitive

Every profession has its own language - professional slang.
I'm glad that you did not understand the essence phrases mentioned her beauty.

In earlier times, the highest rating had huzhozhniki - Lenin Prize.
However, in those times ignored and the skill of the artist.
In EXP dazhi not talking about the seasoned professional skill of each of these artists in it, although it is implemented well-known principle: " Every cricket, stick to your hearth ".
With the return of Russia to the administrative-command system availability EXP means its introduction into circulation as the only-possible "correct" assessment of each of the living artists.
To my regret, EXP is used by professionals (art critics, museum workers, evaluators, etc.). The implications of this use, in my opinion, may be sad and to cause damage to the development of Russian painting.
I believed and believe that the level of seasoned professional skill can not be assessed objectively on the basis of subjective data that do not have practically nothing to do with the results of the artist.
I believed and believe that membership in the SC, the availability of exhibitions often does not reflect the actual level of skill.

It is for these reasons I have a few posts in that topic (as shown in your phrase) object strenuously OF EXP as an almost institutionalized order assessing the level of each enrolled him in art.
And nothing more.

Clarified: the highest rating had Heroes of Socialist Labor (the latter seems to have got Salakhov )

And as for the rest of my poem Meylanda remembered. The immediate reason for him when the latter was the most "five-letter" (Tsereteli, Sidorov, Bubnov, Morozov, Komech).
So I will answer your classic words:

William Meyland
Artists of the chiefs, concerned the publication of ratings Artists

What do you make noise,
Folk Maestra?
Looks like you are rating
the nail stink, but in the eyes.
Russia is large,
and all have enough space
for workshops and summer,
for creative mischief.

So what are you oppressed?
Soviet pride
that someone does not take into account
merits of bygone days? ..
Calm down, gentlemen!
Indeed, creativity - not the udder,
and the rating is not for everyone
roomy cans.

Where the cream, where the water -
judge not bosses
not a docile "Veda"
eaten lunch.
Alas, there are not free
nor rank, nor the State
but only a free eye
and omnipotent God.

2002
 

[Samvel]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

That is, you believe that N. Vorobiev, L. Gribkov, D. Groman, B. Zhutovski, A. Colley, L. Metchnikoff, V. Preobrazhenskaya, MV Sapozhnikov, Leonid Rabichev , V. Shors and other belyutintsy (the number of several tens of) should be in the same category? Of course, I will convey to the RC is your opinion, but personally, I categorically disagree. These were different artists back in belyutinsky period, and then the way many of them went all dramatically.

 You're right about that there can be no question that one size fits all.