Art as a commodity: Paradoxes and patterns

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Сообщение от Pavel

I said Glazunov.

Himself?
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Well, let it resurrects.

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от K-Maler

But Aristotle agreed with you , rather, you are to Aristotle , and it is - a real guru , and not calculated robot ... I also support your idea, but the amendment : the phrase " art - a unique product ." If it is determined in terms of : call all the goods that may have a price tag , such as " live goods " also takes place ...

Immediately misunderstood your point .
"Art - the original product" - I think, something like that.
Then I will not pretend to , but would say something like :
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Wonder kaneshno , and is unlikely and very true .
But let researchers just looking for answers.
And with the political economy of TK such things are possible , believe me.
( Image : Money in 5 functions . But they do not always keep all of them.
For example - a function of the measure of value . At the time of high inflation , this function of money does not work. In the 1990's - we all remember how the price is indicated in dollars or in ve - precisely because it is measured in rubles was pointless. )

Sorry if too much fooling with political economy , but the name of the theme - it is clean , n \\\\ e .

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Seriy; 2767361 "

It's a conversation with a deaf -blind .

Probably.
Today, there is a trend - to try to make art is not a commodity , and currency , something like real estate. In the turnover taken by you listed artists , and with this filing, all the rest - is not successful ...
This idea is a bit stalled because art is a commodity , not money ...
That art should be acquired as a currency that it has become necessary as bread ( the bread and the currency ) . That is, it is necessary that people buy art often and always , and that can not happen ... About successful and not so, it is then ...

[bykinist]

Сообщение от K-Maler

that art is a product

The work of art if it is not considered its inherent metaphysical sense , is precisely commodity like any other item that can be bought or sold. With this hard to argue.

Сообщение от K-Maler

That art should be acquired as a currency that it has become necessary

I would say it is necessary, that it would become illiquid because the necessary art of being well can not . Oscar Wilde : " All art is quite useless. "

Сообщение от K-Maler

( and the bread is the currency )

Bread can play the role of currency , and even then limited solely to the barter system of economic relations , as well as any other goods of prime necessity.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от bykinist; 2769131 "

I would say it is necessary, that it would become liquid

Liquidity is the result of a query. For example, there is a request for souvenirs and they are of varying quality , liquid ... But there is an indispensable request (as it was in classical times ) for landscapes , portraits , still lifes ... so the art trade ( not street ) is stalling ... There are only a request aesthetes and investors ... It is a small percentage of the population ...

[bykinist]

Сообщение от K-Maler

Liquidity is the result of a query .

That's right , the liquidity rests on the basic principle of supply and demand. In this sense, the work of art , as author /single /unique /unique (as opposed to mass- produced goods ) , " win " by the proposal. It turns out that all depends on the "demand" .

[Seriy]

K-Maler, I mean that these artists are not just successful classical artists , no, they use methods of business as usual , conventional marketing, targeting. Did I mention the unusual auction Hirst , when in the wake of his success , he spent something like IPO - initial public offering- placed the shares of his work on one huge auction , as the shares were monochromatic canvases nakleeenoy them a butterfly . And all sold , since the calculation was correct. Murakami has a factory that produces goods ( works of art) for all layers of security for the buyer . Here's his super flat museum- small inexpensive plastic dolls limited edition , a commodity or an art? All these techniques have nothing to do with the classical understanding of what the artist .
In addition to investors and lovers there are also such a large category of consumption of art as a decoration of the home.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от bykinist

That's right , the liquidity rests on the basic principle of supply and demand. In this sense, the work of art , as author /single /unique /unique (as opposed to mass- produced goods ) , " win " by the proposal. It turns out that all depends on the "demand ".

So you are categorically deny and author's copies and replication of successful art products and technologies for their production. Then we have to close all the colleges and out - of school. In this case, the operation will be unique ... I am pleased - will be less competition.
And the demand is always there, but on a well- made ​​, and not to daub .

[Pavel]

Сообщение от bykinist

It turns out that all depends on the "demand".

All depends on the impossibility of sales demand.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

I am happy - will be less competition.

What kind of competition?
On the Soul's time to think about.

" Competitors ... "
 
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