Konstantin Savitsky Apollonovich "Kryuchnik"

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Weak answers.

Wait for the "strong" .
Or do you expect the address of the " private collection "?

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We need more good arguments to keep smiling about the discovery.

Rejoice in the discovery , and read his thing with the original authorship Konstantin Savitsky Apollonovich (June 6, 1844, Taganrog - February 13, 1905, Penza).
 I do not mind, I only .
I only date that's on your picture I saw , I could not make out the inscription " 1888 ."

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in the lower right corner to read the date 1888 .

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You write:

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I want to know your opinion about this work.

Here I am , and expressed his opinion .

[serg468]

The lower-right corner badly defaced.
I did not immediately see the date.
But it is.
And over the date of the letters are still visible, from which you can add the word "Sawicki."
Photography to convey difficult.
If it were not erased, probably did not get.

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I did not immediately see the date. But it is .

These squiggles you call the date ?
Look at the picture , KA Savitsky. That's where the date !
It was signed by the artist put their work almost always. Even in the studies.
Even in fragments of the original version of the painting " At War" in 1880 , which Savitsky cut , he left on each and sign and date . Even after writing a picture.
For example on a fragment of $ 23.8 X52 , 4, which is now called "Soldiers of crowding in rail cars ," he set the date "88 g".

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And on the date of the letters are still visible, from which you can add the word "Sawicki."

Yeah, Paul M. erased, probably as a "Morning in a Pine Forest."
 
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Had it not been erased, probably did not get.

So the same:

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accidentally got the picture.

Do not be sad.
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[Peter]

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I understand a little painting, and I can not argue

What I can not believe ...
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[serg468]

Well in the Tretyakov Gallery or Grabar judge. And I do not feel sad (this is for Cyril Syzran ). Life is beautiful in any event. Foaming at the mouth will not prove or disprove , because once again I say that is not special in the painting . Who will be in Nizhni , come to me in an antique shop , a live show (so far not sent for review ). And flourishes too.

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Yes, and I do not feel sad

And rightly so:

- Throw it away, Tugu-sorrow. (c) >

[Игорь Гурьев]

But the original is not really in the Penza gallery?

Or I forgot?

[serg468]

You've seen it in person there?
If not, then you forgot.

[intart1]

In the exhibition catalog , K. Savitsky 1955 to 1884 is referred to the picture " Kryuchnik " as " variant - repeat pattern of 1884, the same name , located on the 12th exhibition of the Association of Traveling Art Exhibitions in 1884 . 69h49 . Signed lower right : K. Savitskiy 1884 Exhibitions: Russian Painting of the 2nd half of XIX - early XX centuries. 1951-1952 . M.
Private collection in Moscow , before the meeting , DT Budinova in Moscow .
Pp. 47, also have a picture of the picture.

[fabosch]

According to the two -volume " TPHV . Letters and documents " (New York: The lawsuit of 1987) " ​​Kryuchnik " dates from 1883 and really got into the catalog of the 12th exhibition at number 77 . Catalog went on sale in March 1884 , so the date 1883 more plausible.
Illustration reproduces exactly the scenario that resulted in Cyril Syzran.