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Старый 28.11.2010, 22:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #121
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it is clear that Krishna can not be called the representatives of Hinduism. This is one of the sects, which was organized in the U.S. in the recent past.
Repeating ignorant propaganda opus Dworkin You will not have services to Orthodoxy. But not to be unfounded as he was a liar, I cite information in response to his quote in your message:

The festivities in honor of the 5,237 th anniversary of the events of Sri Krishna took place under the sign of the Year of India in Russia. Solemn part of the nationally beloved Indian festival was opened by the chairman of the organizing committee of Janmastami-2009 president of the Association of Indians in Russia, Sanjiv Kumar Jha, who called Sri Krishna Janmashtami "Indian Christmas". He reminded the guests that this is one of the oldest festivals in the world, while in India it is widely celebrated around one billion people.
Ambassador of India to Russia Prabhat Shukla pointed to the important role played by the religious organization Society for Krishna Consciousness "in strengthening Indo-Russian relations.
  Mahendra Docia, Ambassador of the Republic of Mauritius (52%believing the population of Mauritius Hindus), thanked the Society for Krishna Consciousness for organizing the celebrations, urged "to maintain the Society for Krishna Consciousness, which aims to bring the people peace and love."

Radha Damodara Temple is located in the East Siberian char-Seva Center of Vrindavan where Krishna spent his childhood, was founded in 1542 by Jiva Goswami. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada lived in this house in 1950-1960-ies before heading to the U.S.. His bhajan kutir (place of worship of monks, ascetics, in some traditions of Hinduism) is located in the temple. On-the great Vaishnava saint, "the religious tradition within Hinduism, which is a direction or a branch of Vaishnavism. Followers of the Gaudiya Vaishnava Vaishnava call or Hare Krishnas. Gaudiya Vaishnavism is one of the monotheistic currents of Hinduism. The founder of the Gaudiya Vaishnava was Hindu religious preacher and reformer Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (1486-1534).

Vaishnavism is one of the two main lines of Hinduism, along with Saivism. Although both of these traditions come from the same root, each of them has their own idea of that exists, and, accordingly, its own object of worship. The main feature of Vaishnavism - this veneration of Vishnu as the supreme personal God. "

After reading the text below, tell the difference between Krishnaism of Christianity (except for tolerance):
Distinctive features of Krishna Theology
• «doctrine of the unknowable-edinorazdelnom that exists;
• understanding of bhakti (love between the devotee (bhakta) and personal form of God), not only as a means but also as the goal of the spiritual path;
• worship Krishna as the original incarnation of God and the source of all the avatars;
• reliance on the Bhagavata Purana as the main sacred text;
• cult of Radha (female hypostasis) and the worship of Radha and Krishna together as Radha-Krishna;
• cult of Chaitanya, who is revered as the Hare Krishnas incarnation of Radha and Krishna. (Sound familiar?).




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Старый 29.11.2010, 00:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #122
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The conflict with the Hare Krishnas in Moscow
1 May 2006 in Moscow there was a conflict between Dworkin and the representative of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, a novice of the temple in Moscow, Sergey Kosenko, distributing the Hindu books in the subway. Dworkin took the Hare Krishnas in the militia, which he stated that he had assaulted him and inflicted minor injuries face. Information about beating Hare Krishnas Dworkin was subsequently denied by the representative of the Moscow police and the president of the Moscow Society for Krishna Consciousness, Sergei Andreyev. May 12 of that year, Sergey Kosenko, in an interview with Portal-Credo », described the incident as an attack itself Dworkin, which then snatched from his hands one of the Hindu books and shouting that everything is Satanism, tore it in part. Aggressive behavior Orthodox Professor Krishna explained as follows:
Thus, every fanatic usually convinces himself he is right, strengthen itself. First, he grabs the book and then maybe pick up a knife to kill in the name of their faith, that is, he has essentially no control over himself.

Kosenko also said that it was the second case of an attack on him by Alexander Dvorkin. Asked what the opinion of the Hare Krishnas of the conflict happened, Sergey Kosenko said:
Dworkin soon concealed by the Church. As a result, his performances have ignorant people have the feeling that in a society divided into "us" and "Nenashev. In this case, anti-sectarian campaign exacerbate ignorance of religion and faith in general, people are turning away from Orthodoxy, if they hear utterances of people like Dworkin. Professor Alexander Dvorkin - not Orthodox, and Orthodox - it's Saint Sergius of Radonezh and Metropolitan Anthony Surozhsky. At the heart of Orthodoxy is a Christian principle - love the Lord your God and your neighbor, but a manifestation of aggression - this is not a religion.

 

And here The truth about Alexander L. Dvorkin .
Rather, we must admit, curious reading, yes.
By the way, and there dokumentik published amusing about the educational level of this "scholar":
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Старый 29.11.2010, 06:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #123
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There's not a sequel, and the propaganda game. How ignorant it may be judged at least shown there is a drawing. The authors of the text of delusional attempt to fool readers signed a supposedly frightening picture that it depicts Krishna, although there is depicted an illustration of the history of Shiva, which I cited below.
 This militant ignorance and deception drive people away from faith. Betrayed once ...


On picture illustrated "one of the incarnations of Krishna" (this is signed by the figure). And one of the incarnations of Krishna is just Shiva. What do you see a "propaganda game"? Where ignorance? Here you are, indeed, demonstrated his own lack of understanding about what you write. And that is militant ignorance.



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Старый 01.12.2010, 18:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #124
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The figure shows" one of the incarnations of Krishna "(that's signed picture)
Krishna is portrayed as a rule in the form of a fun and relaxing boy shepherd. Notice who signed the drawing - "Center of Irenaeus of Lyons." What is this center? He has other problems, not like the church? Incidentally Irenaeus - the first visibly marked "Number of the Beast" - (666), and it has been for many centuries before it saw the theologians in the name of Nero, as Paul wrote.
We often use the names and concepts without delving into the root of such.
By ca. - Gentiles - this is our word, Christian, and what we Lepim it to all non-Christian religions, suggests that it is, simply, someone pays!
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You do not mind that Buddhism - it is a pagan religion?
To talk about religions should not just know the object to prim.prochitat Pitaka Buddhism or Hindu Puranas, must feel at some genetic level. In India, any kid can tell more than our scientist.
I think the Israelis do not understand why on Christmas we lezim the hole. In Jordan, although the water is hot.
At one time I tried to understand yoga, not as a "twist legs, as well as a religious direction. Result: broken brain. Too, but more gently (as still lived there) happened to Buddhism.
So, God forbid we find ourselves in our culture and save it to himself.
From the following: nowadays the word "religion" and "faith" can no longer be unambiguously called synonyms.
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Center Irenaeus of Lyons".
This is just the center Dworkin, "denouncer" sectarianism.



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This is just the center Dworkin," denouncer "sectarianism.
Well, everything is clear!
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Artem, opinions about the Internet such here, "Dvorkin": Here is a website called "Living History." Themselves think about why - "live"? Because it consists entirely of just such human souls, are deeply stuck in the virtual world. People, plans social networking site with such a name, obviously knew what they seek. This so-called "magazine" gives an opportunity to join a community - such a small organization for communication between people with similar interests. It is very diverse in content. Meet there and the Orthodox community with good people who unfortunately do not understand the dangers of this action.

But the biggest and most active audience "magazine" - it's all sorts Russophobe, homosexuals, supporters of the legalization of drugs and Satanists.

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Boltologiya This has nothing to do with faith and religion. Not tolerance - it is unbelief! In addition, we can see these bad people, and world in large numbers, as neighbors and even relatives, etc.
If he says, sitting in a bad nete, means in the world we see them less, which is also good.
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Do not tolerance - it is unbelief!
I am pleased to read your messages in this thread, thanks. Subscribe to each.
To argue on whether or not there God - a pointless waste of time. Talking about faith with those who are asking questions - fun.

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In my time I tried to understand yoga, not as a" twist legs, as well as a religious direction. Result: broken brain.
That is I do not understand, especially about the outcome. I can say with the experience of a yogi, about ten years, no negative points there.



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And what sekstanstvo?
Let's face it.
Actually it can go back to the Bible?



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