Is it possible to create and develop the art market without kommodifikatsii art? - Страница 12 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Pavel · 19.02.2010, 12:14

That's such a stupid situation now is. Many artists who have no money to enrich the gallery owners simply work under him. But this is not the fault of artists, but the situation was. On the one hand vystavkomy blubber on their official announcements, the other gallery owners with big ambitions and a complete absence of a market in which both are interested in, but do not realize that the market is the public auction, simply open tendering as the Drouot.

Причал · 19.02.2010, 13:29

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Prichal

Vot i ia ne mogu sebe, daze chisto gipoteticheski, predstavit 'hudoznika vne rynka. Smysl teriaetsia.

So I can not. In fact - just the artist - it is almost a reference example of the manufacturer. The actors, for example, more complicated - they must be there to understand who is the manufacturer. And the artist - and everything in this rather short chain from producer to consumer.

If a producer-artist wants to cut the chain to increase profitability - he himself would have to perform one of the options. In accordance with their capabilities. And the result of sales, he also received, in accordance with these opportunities. I would like to receive income in line with spent. Accordingly, the price of the goods does not fall ....

NATA NOVA · 19.02.2010, 13:32

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That's such a stupid situation now is. Many artists who have no money to enrich the gallery owners simply work under him. But this is not the fault of artists, but the situation was. On the one hand vystavkomy blubber on their official announcements, the other gallery owners with big ambitions and a complete absence of a market in which both are interested in, but do not realize that the market is the public auction, simply open tendering as the Drouot.

And not open to you, Pavel, his own auction? (According to the help-payment by results-going?) Helped. than I can .. We start with (micro) regional scale ..

Pavel, to become a global, start with a local ..

AlexanderG · 19.02.2010, 13:33

Zamechatel'no vy vsio opisali, a esli predstavit 'sebe art rynok po bol'shomu schiotu, to voobsche kartina interesnaia.

NATA NOVA · 19.02.2010, 13:34

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Accordingly, the price of the goods does not fall ....

price does not decline. but do not spray ..
Hearst, for example .. (Why, though, he auctions intermediaries? and so will sell!)

Причал · 19.02.2010, 13:40

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price will not fall. but do not spray ..
Hearst, for example .. (Why, though, he auctions intermediaries? and so will sell!)

What you all this was given Hurst? ...

And even if it is - you had asked how much he spends on promotion? And what is his relative, not absolute returns. Percentage profit from him what?

NATA NOVA · 19.02.2010, 13:48

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What you all this was given Hurst? ...

And even if it is - you had asked how much he spends on promotion? And what is his relative, not absolute returns. Percentage profit from him what?

Pribylemetr not rasklinit .. (if measured by a shark .. 20 000%?)
And in the calf-2 500 000%?

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how much he spends on promotion?

generally spend nothing .. (there is data-show)
Yes. remembered! Advertisement gave the recruitment of assistants in the magazine-so pounds! (as the same. remember, I remember, that's for sure!)

Причал · 19.02.2010, 13:59

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Pribylemetr not rasklinit .. (if measured by a shark .. 20 000 %?)

You only measures the cost of production.

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generally spend nothing .. (there is data-show)
Yes. remembered! Advertisement gave the recruitment of assistants in the magazine-so pounds! (as the same. remember, I remember, that's for sure!)

So what prevents you to do so lucrative business?

AlexanderG · 19.02.2010, 14:08

Tsenoobrazovanie poniatno daleko ne vsem. Iz-za etogo voznikaiut konflikty.

NATA NOVA · 19.02.2010, 14:14

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So what do you prevent such a profitable business?

And why have you decided what I was doing a profitable business? (and I suddenly something someone "prevents")
Here taka implikashka (Poo) got-(understand, not like, I forgive generously!)

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You only measures the cost of production.

And what more, when the idea to steal? (Oh, do not start me off-black gift)

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19.02.2010, 12:14	Язык оригинала: Русский #111
Pavel Гуру Регистрация: 13.02.2009 Сообщений: 7,384 Спасибо: 3,976 Поблагодарили 4,028 раз(а) в 1,687 сообщениях Репутация: -2	That's such a stupid situation now is. Many artists who have no money to enrich the gallery owners simply work under him. But this is not the fault of artists, but the situation was. On the one hand vystavkomy blubber on their official announcements, the other gallery owners with big ambitions and a complete absence of a market in which both are interested in, but do not realize that the market is the public auction, simply open tendering as the Drouot.