Продам: Mikhail Vrubel

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Сообщение от Mihail

The sketch is not Vrubel-fact.

You probably authoritative expert on creativity Vrubel? Or one of those who used to be limited to the characteristics of the type - fufelok, crappy picture, smacks falshakom ..... and at the same time - "to believe the documents, rather than myself, it's not for me." Bezappelyatsionnye Such a conclusion - the first sign of ignorance. Not to mention a direct insult to the seller in public has proposed вешь for sale.

[Mihail]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

You probably authoritative expert on creativity Vrubel? Or one of those who used to be limited to the characteristics of the type - fufelok, crappy picture, smacks falshakom ..... and at the same time - "to believe the documents, rather than myself, it's not for me." Bezappelyatsionnye Such a conclusion - the first sign of ignorance. Not to mention a direct insult to the seller in public has proposed вешь for sale.

Read my posts carefully, your fufelkami not interested and does not operate them. I believe that the submitted sketch no favorite brush Vrubel.

[яков]

Сообщение от Mihail

Read my posts carefully, your fufelkami not interested and does not operate them. I believe that the submitted sketch not belong Vrubel.

Michael, your opinion on this work has pomoemu all ponyatno.Predlagayu to discuss the diversity of the work, the authorship of which work at least you have doubts arise not dolzhno.Ved is written you or ?.....- ->

[Mihail]

Сообщение от yaks

Michael, your opinion on this work has pomoemu all ponyatno.Predlagayu to discuss the diversity of the work, the authorship of which work at least you have a doubt cause nedolzhno.Ved is written you or ?.....

Etude mine. Discuss.

[яков]

Сообщение от Mihail

my sketch. Discuss.

But seriously, I understand that you argue not only the authorship of this etude but, after all above the above, work directly in Vrubel Kirollovskom cathedral on'tomb'weeping.?

[Mihail]

Сообщение от yaks

But seriously, I understand that you argue not only the authorship of this etude but, after all above the above, work directly Vrubel in St. Cyril's Cathedral over'tomb weeping'.?

Despite the documents, I do not really believe that Tombstone crying wrote Vrubel. But I wrote above - everything in life happens.

[яков]

Сообщение от Mihail

In spite of the documents I do not really believe that Tombstone weeping wrote Vrubel. But I wrote above - everything in life happens.

Ponyatno.Spasibo.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

But all this does not matter ... the tenth frame work ... Who knows whom, and under what circumstances had to make just such a frame. Although the course during the life of an artist of his work was valued ... And as it is difficult to imagine that for Vrubel frame made of scrap ...

This frame just selected very carefully, it fits the tone, color and pattern, a beautiful modern, suitable for Vrubel as for anyone else. I think that the frame did the owner of this watercolor personally and not very skillfully, but he tried to dock in the picture field close to watercolor. If the board "Bristol", ie paper for watercolor on cardboard, then Vrubel to use it. How fixing frame on the back side, too, at that time, including grinding bevels. Techniques most watercolors, nodules, etc., also similar to how it was done by Vrubel, but his methods are very difficult to repeat his watercolors in particular attracted the attention of Repin, Serov and others. And the composition is flawless. Another consideration: such subjects and to the extent not designed not forge ... It seems that this Vrubel.

[ФАИв]

Originally Posted by Mihail

Despite the documents I do not really believe

Mo - I think it is already toast

On this subject there is an old anecdote.
Accepts old Orthodox Jew (in the first guild did not take the Jews): The exam is given in the Scriptures:

Priest: Do you believe you that the Lord turned water into wine?
Moishe: I believe ... But do with this wine were drunk, do not believe

C: Do you believe you are the Lord 9-Tew people fed bread
M: I believe ... But in order that he was fed helluva lot - it is unlikely

C: Do you believe you Moishe then that the Lord on the water Aki walked on dry land?
M: I believe ... But there were a helluva lot of so-lumps do not believe

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Сообщение от K-Maler

Here, the frame just selected very carefully, it fits the tone, color and pattern, a beautiful modern, suitable for Vrubel as for anyone else. I think that the frame did the owner of this watercolor personally and not very skillfully, but he tried to dock in the picture field close to watercolor. If the board "Bristol", ie paper for watercolor on cardboard, then Vrubel to use it. How fixing frame on the back side, too, at that time, including grinding bevels.

This text is painted in my mind a very vivid picture of! But, unfortunately, added nothing to the arguments, confirming the authenticity of work.

Сообщение от K-Maler

Methods of the most watercolors, nodules, etc., also similar to how it was done by Vrubel, but his methods are very difficult to repeat his watercolors in particular attracted the attention of Repin, Serov and others. And the composition is flawless. Another consideration: such subjects and to the extent not designed not forge ... It seems that this Vrubel.

That is just the thing that Vrubel excellent knowledge of watercolor techniques and had his only his inherent style. Of course, the most characteristic Vrubel things belong to a later period of the artist's work, but also in the works of the early 80's. artist has its own recognizable style. It is otherness presented a sketch for reference work Vrubel have absolutely no way to call this work to work Vrubel.

I saw a lot of watercolors Wrubel, including the conceptual level, as "alive" and in the reproductions. I saw the work and this period (early 80's.), No one like I do not remember.
Considerations that the extent of preparedness and with such subjects are not fake, can not be an argument in favor of the authenticity of work. Easily do not need to put the signature on the watercolor, which seemed like a watercolor Vrubel. Moreover, the demand is even "pocherkushki" this artist has always been high. This Vrubel, any degree of elaboration, is extremely rare in the market.

I quote a few original watercolors Vrubel different periods of his work, those few who managed to find in electronic form (unfortunately, the quality of some of the reproductions is poor):