Продам: Plate from the service of the Order of St. Andrew --- 1780, Mr. Gardner

[vladimir45]

Here you have the backdrop respected special thiols

[tivoli]

You have answered your question, why sell them on the forum all the more so here in 95%of cases, no one is buying, you know perfectly well where it is sold. The difference between one, you fake, as Christi has been sold at the real thing. Hopefully convincing answer.

Сообщение от vladimir45

To begin with respected expert mnogostanochnik Tivoli how to pronounce - the view must be understood that the camera is far better than the human eye and have the subject in hand and only then talk about the color weight and abrasions but still honor a smart book about history of medal table sets. that they were used only once a year at chevstvovaniya orders and then to the end of the reign of Nicholas I and then by his decree, all the medal sets including Berlin and Andrew were transferred to the Hermitage and in return they were released repetitions on the imperial factory and they did not once and were not used and there are just super perfect condition. But if we take as an example of the Kremlin service out there on the contrary almost never occur dish in perfect condition with no scuffs except dodelok the time of Nicholas II. And your authoritative opinion got into the habit of flooding the market is your leash so to say an authoritative opinion ---- the only thing that has yet learned to do so is more like biscuit Gardner figurines and even if they take up can be seen that this is not original with the same mass. weight and structure of the test. There are of course alterations from Europe with new psevdopohozhimi brands but they are easy to read and verify the possible dovolno just a strong solvent, if the owners of these masterpieces will let you. And perhaps most important in that it is necessary to pay attention to orders' plate so it is also on board. he seems like a multi-level and even to repeat at the imperial factory made but also less clearly (because you just in case for general rzvitiya not like that at Gardner did not have more IPE nowhere without seeing that already excludes podddelku from other laundry). Any attempt to do something similar yet no one has failed except propaganda porcelain and it is not very convincing but it is a separate issue. But since you are so special and brings into question the opinion of DPI. Kuskovo and GMM then I am before you shoot panamku. Here you ссылочка and try to find the differences ---------- http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/l...6-74676e1ff428

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от tivoli

here in 95%of cases, no one buys

From such statistics, I wonder?

[tivoli]

Mistaken in 100%

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Where such statistics, I wonder?

[vladimir45]

Interesting to argue with the pros respected thiol ----- with someone knowledgeable. Here's what you are right so this is not a dish that auction ---- there fine and I'm deep. There you have to supplement your knowledge. And the apron and the back. Learn respected thiol --- Knowledge is power and not rasbrasyvaytes --- beat the same theme and with time stuns pros

[Кирилл Сызранский]

I am not an expert PDI, but was engaged in porcelain and in my opinion on these plates through the monitor, all things vladimir45 are true.

[Konstantin]

You have answered your question, why do they sell on the forum all the more so here in 95%of cases, no one buys, you know perfectly well where it is sold. The difference between one, you fake, as Christi has been sold at the real thing. Hopefully convincing answer.

There is no convincing this message is regarded as a flood, following in the same spirit, I will clean up.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от vladimir45

that are subject to doubt the opinion of DPI. Kuskovo and SHM

Dear Vladimir, if you have an expert opinion of these respected organizations (and preferably full name, experts), show will be interesting to read, and many issues at once become clear.
Agree, fakes a huge amount and make them part of modern masters IPE (LPF) and a high level.
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If you offer to sell subject to a level necessary to write "The examination included, but it turns best guesses.

[uriart]

All these modern replica of which you write are very different from the original plates!
And when the original plates in his hands at once feel it is an old china or modern replica.
I am sure that the experts from DPI have enough comparative material, and expertise.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от uriart

I am sure that the experts from DPI have enough comparative material, and expertise.

Yuri, I'm writing about this, the seller refers to the experts Kuskovo and GMI, but examination of official no-shows, and shows the price 70t.u.e and above. (These prices and without all know)