Is it possible to create and develop the art market without kommodifikatsii art?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Berth

Formalyugi

If the contrary: Malevich (Black Cube) and Weisberg (White Field).

[Причал]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

If the contrary: Malevich (Black Cube) and Weisberg (White Field).

And we, obitaltsy melkomuravchatyh lepninonavorochennyh interior, home appliances, then come to the case to the substantive part

Green watermarks "

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Veronic

Paul, I for example, faced with such situations .... bring in a picture gallery and call it a price (by the way is not very big) and if the gallery owners or galereyschitsa believes that price is inflated, it now will never sell . And even if she will name a price for the buyer did not believe herself in this price, it now will not buy. So often the sellers could sell only what they believe in themselves.

This is because they sold something that is sold, ie commerce. Even the concept and the abstraction of commercial or politically loyal ie independent of originality. Most sellers do not. But I also once walked through the galleries and I know that there is sold. Paintings bought in galleries in two cases, as a gift and close the hole in the wall. Some try to order and for the prestige but this is ridiculous kak4 portraits Shilov.
Who offers paintings for capital investment? As it then return it? That number is auctioned to the collection and it does not work, there are no guarantees.

[Marta]

Сообщение от Veronic

So often sellers can sell only what they believe in themselves.

This is a wonderful option for the artist. And for gallery owners - I'm not sure. In fact, gallery owners, in my opinion, can sell and what he did not personally close, but he feels that potentially it could "go". Just recently received a number of recommendations on the future "and the number of unflattering remarks about the present, with the assurance that everything will be sold. As the saying goes, "the choice is yours."

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Pavel

The market is hundreds of auctions a day throughout the country. This is possible only in public administration, and in fact where we are now tumbles can only power crime.

I agree with you, Paul. I would like to cite examples, but I can not ... Precisely because of what you said ...

[Причал]

Сообщение от Marta

In principle, gallery owners, in my opinion, can sell and what he did not personally close, but he feels that potentially it could "go". .

Rather still does not go, "and" shall have the right to life "(we have an expression." It means something like - "I, too, as a kind of artist, creative person - this style /trend /do not close, but in its niche is done well and, accordingly, I will not be ashamed to offer it. "

But Veronic, I think, generally not talked about this. A physical evaluation of the proposed product. And quite right - sometimes a gallery owner takes an artist's work to implement, even if the price of his opinion overstated. But actively offer these customers to work his tongue does not rotate. I'm so easy to say that in my opinion it's still expensive for these works. Maul - your right, but I warned you.

[Marta]

Well, yes, about the inflated prices you know best. But is the same as in the process is regulated, if there is interest in rabote.Osobenno our open spaces. Previously, it happened that may or may not ask, but to place before the fact

[Причал]

Сообщение от Marta

Well, yes, about the inflated prices you know best. But is the same as in the process is regulated, if there is interest in the work.

Happens.
But gallery owner always it is better to sell it, to assess what it Dodge.

Сообщение от Marta

Especially on our open spaces. Previously, it happened that may or may not ask, but to place before the fact

Who will put in front of some fact? Not understand.

[Marta]

But earlier in our galleries in practice to drop the price, not placing a known artist. Even now, there is one such gallery, which may surprise so. Wildness, of course, but very few buyers, and hence the methods - not to miss!

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Berth

happens.
But gallery owner always it is better to sell it, to assess what it Dodge.

And now you can imagine a situation that the gallery owner does not own the full information on prices of artist's paintings. Today the price alone, but tomorrow rose. The artist held exhibitions, including international. And gallery owners think that the artist is still worth 300 dollars.
We had such, so I speak from personal experience. Even after the demonstration galeristke facts on more expensive sales, she chose to stay with her opinion. Naturally we do not work with this gallery, and nothing at the same time not lost.