Auction Oct. 25, 2008, Mr. Triumph of Socialist Realism "

[Konstantin]

On the red circles that something is wrong at sayte.Vozmozhno costs of formation, but in the future (if this issue will not be finalized), there may be legal problems.

Once again - the red circle is Investment indicator, but not the expertise of authenticity. From this point of view if you look, then who is to say that this painting bought for 25 million rubles. correct an investment? And after a year or two will rise in price? What will be worth 30 million? That's about how and speech.
More about the indicators, the last Antique Salon showed clearly the need for them, we had a lot of communication with visitors and in one voice - that we are good fellows (not discreetly of course myself).

[qwerty]

Сообщение от Eugene

Konstantin, competent, professional explanation .. I agree, examination of photographs is nonsense ...

Another explanation from the organizers of the auction and can not be expected. It is unlikely that they could answer: "Yes, we have found a donkey, which vtyuhali this masterpiece.
Examination on the photo - is nonsense, except in obvious cases, with which we have encountered here. Eugene, if you bring photos of abstract work Nalbandian, adding to the expertise of, say, the Tretyakov Gallery, you will be doubts about the authorship of this work?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Once again - the red circle is the investment indicator, but not the expertise of authenticity. From this point of view if you look, then who is to say that this painting bought for 25 million rubles. correct an investment? And after a year or two will rise in price? What will be worth 30 million? That's about it, and.

Constantine thanks for razyasneniya, I understood him to drugomu.Pochitayu again position on indicators, probably I never understood the point.
This is a completely different meaning (the indicator), such an indicator is needed and useful, it is even talk no sense .. And it is natural to want to put before the auction ... The price component of this picture, the prospects for growth is another subject (it is not discussed)
Simply theme was: the authenticity of works of Deineka, and the associated risks, so I connected an indicator to this discussion, he was.
Thanks again for the clarification ..

Сообщение от qwerty

Examination on the photo - is nonsense, except in obvious cases

It is not obvious later sluchay.No we have on the tenth circle we go.

Сообщение от qwerty

"Yes, we have found a donkey, which vtyuhali this masterpiece".

Do not get so bad, it is buyers Sovkoma and must be respected, not who you is not said that all buyers vanguard idiots .. (considering how much bullshit there).

[LCR]

Сообщение от Eugene

examination of the photograph is nonsense ...

Tell me please, but as you imagine searching borrowing and general iconographic study without the use of photos?

I venture to suggest that even "major collectors" have not been able to move to the premises of the auction house two or three of these Deineko for comparative analysis of those very many details of which appear on the work of interest to us.

[Евгений]

LCR, Liana same for the hundredth time (attribution only for photos) is not interested .. just sad.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Eugene

Opinion 70%of the panelists (who often wrote: "from the Soviet art sick")
subjective

Far. Views were expressed on a particular job. Soviet painting, as such, nothing to do with.
Sorry, Eugene, a subjective look here you are; rights Kirill, on the other pictures on the photo you allow yourself to shoot from the hip: bullshit, they say ..
I am also very happy for the Soviet painting, she demanded, simply because, without a commercial interest ..
In this case, my view has not changed.

[qwerty]

Сообщение от Eugene

Do not be so evil, it is the buyers Sovkoma and must be respected, not who you is not said that all buyers vanguard idiots .. (considering how much bullshit there).

I'm not evil, but rather - on the contrary, but it's hard to respect people who are throwing money away, no matter what they buy: Socialist Realism and the avant-garde, it is better to sacrifice for a worthy cause, or drunk, finally ...

[sss]

This is not an interview, and a solid political correctness (with regards to responses), about everything and anything.
Recalled a conversation with an artist who successfully sold his paintings abroad.
- If not a secret, then for how much?
- Yes, in different ways ...
- Well, at least, what level of prices?
- Level? Now say specifically. Little work, up to a meter, is very difficult to sell, and More ... More generally, virtually impossible.

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Eugene: Proper, professional explanation .. I agree, examination of photographs is nonsense ...
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After such a "competent and professional" comments about the situation with "Running the girls", our arguments - just a scientific thesis, which already there "trains" ...

* The inexplicable absence of "girls" in two volumes 1989., Soap expert opinion and the same provenance - to the photos have nothing.
* Irrationality story compilation, anatomic sloppy - available for photos.
Well, perhaps, distorted the color, but only, for some reason in this work ...
About the age of the material, it seems, and not arguing.
So, it is obvious and not EKSPERTNOvidny.

In fact, I think the answer to "Running Girl" is hidden in the following quotation:
AI: What is the main criterion for high-end art auctions?
Y. TA: The main criterion - the confidence that we can sell this thing at the starting price. We are trying to attract commercial right thing - "delicious

Supermarket some ranging surcharge ... Walk, look, consults with the mother, date of production - on the packaging.
Principles of Sotheby's much nicer.

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Eugene: So we have to understand what happens to the price ..
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25 million is not surprising. Grounds to assert that "agreement" - not, as reasons to think so - yes.

[Сергеич]

Now I inflame an already heated discussion.
Nov. 26 at Christie exposed Dejneka to estimate: £ 80,000 - £ 120,000 ($ 132,800 - $ 199,200)
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details . aspx? from = salesummary & intObjectID = 5146343 & sid = dd87d671-36c9-4bf5-81ba-4abfeb68a3d7

Those who believe that the order price Deineko already under a million $ should suffice. And we'll see how many will leave. I think that within the 200 000-300 000 $ because the picture is decent.

[Meister]

but not, so-so ... no trains, no running people ... frail thing clear, why it is so cheap))