Auction Oct. 25, 2008, Mr. Triumph of Socialist Realism "

[Евгений]

Meister, So we have to understand what is happening with the prices .. for Nyssa struggled famous English art dealer Matthew Bown http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/entertai...lery_int.shtml
  (and he is no stranger to this biznnese).

Сообщение от Meister

There can be no higher than 30-40 tyschyach dollars,

And got more than 200t. cu will wait for an analysis of past auction ..
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Remember our discussion with you in July at the Soviet painting ...:
Quote:
"Message from Eugene:
"... All right. But Konchalovsky, Juon, Saryan, Deineka, Grabar, A. Gerasimov is the first Soviet academicians .. and why their prices can not serve as a guide .."
Meister: "Eugene, in my opinion, it is impossible to put in one number Konchalovsky, Juon, Saryan and Deineko, Gerasimova. Yes, it is the first and worked in the days of socialist realism, but they did not reckon in this area . And the price of their early works can not serve as a guide, because the early works are much more significant from an artistic point of view, than later. A work created during the socialist realism were not much different from the "massive influx". 250-300, and even thousands for work established during the socialist realism was still too much. " http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=875
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Soviet painting is a history of now-defunct state, and it always will largely contribute to price growth ...
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"...... Paintings of this period is underestimated. Market was not, they wrote something on the state order, something to the show, and the rest of the time - for yourself, for your soul, for the joy of daily work. In the West, many collectors perceive these paintings as Neo. Sketches "for himself" the official picture can be quite stunning ....."

[Konstantin]

They sent out Sovkoma answers YM Tyukhtin. Processed and laid out somewhere after 14-00.

[Allena]

http://artinvestment.ru/invest/event...i_tyuhtin.html

[Meister]

Сообщение от Eugene

, and even for 250-300 thousand works created during the socialist realism was still too much

  but I still think so ...

[Евгений]

Konstantin, Thank you for the interview and for the speed.
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AI: The upcoming sale of the lot "Traveling Girls" provoked a sharp discussion on the forum. In particular, participants were divided opinions on the attribution, and felt a lack of information on this work. Now, after a phenomenal sale, how can you comment on this situation?
Y. T.: For work Deineki traded four major collector. Of course, taking such a decision, they studied the work personally, with the present and experts and art dealers with the experience. Since most of the time the road works are in the depository, orders for such views received in advance, during the last month. Unfortunately, your experts that assign indicators of investment risk (the work of "Traveling Girls" advisory council site ARTinvestment.RU awarded the red light. - Ed.), We have not seen live. Apparently, their professional level allows them to draw conclusions from photographs. For all expensive top lots in this auction, we conclude sales contracts, with appropriate financial guarantees. Therefore, our position publicly, transparent and insured for buyers - probably why we have and buy more.
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Proper, professional explanation .. I agree, examination of photographs is nonsense ...
Konstantin, We will await the results of sales ..
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[Самвел]

For a languid interview. After him in some time was reluctant to go to the forum. Perhaps it seemed to me?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Samvel

Or maybe it seemed to me?

  Seemed .. He does not just give an interview to the newspaper, the forum is a bit more complicated .. almost a live broadcast.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Answer Mr. Tyukhtin on "Girl" is very vague. People torgavalis for it, they have their relationship to the picture, they saw her alive, in contrast to the forum. Here are the answer.
Eugene, You say that the examination of photographs is nonsen, but no expert opinion here and not give, and expressed opinions. You, too, speaks about the images seen on the monitor. Or not?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

and expressed opinions

agree 70%of the panelists (who often wrote: "from the Soviet art sick")
subjective. (although sometimes interesting). But this topic is already on the fifth circle repeats itself ... Time will put everything in their places ... We'll wait a week, other ..

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

they saw her alive

And not only seen, but also conducted an additional examination, studied in more detail provenans.Eto normal dealership work .. once fought 4 persons and total 25 million rubles .. probably provenance gave them ..

Cyril Syzransky, What has been discussed, it is of course only for the benefit of customers .. The only time (with which I disagree), with a red circle you can not hurry .. The picture in the database is, could experts map and more detailed study of the subject (after auction), and not just, without any liability verdict (especially before the auction). With the red circles that something is wrong on the site.
The buyer will be possible to conduct new studies of this picture, if there are reasonable doubts (and painting, for example, will be returned to the auction house), and only then can put a red circle.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Eugene, but then these circles is of no significance.
Return-please, the red circle, "we are not advised, was an investment risk."
In one you are right: the look that they were taking, none by force is not imposed, all "themselves with a mustache."