What distinguishes the true artist from not present?

[Marta]

Сообщение от Berth

. Usually, artists are not very fond of "hucksters art."
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So it. Not just do not like, but do not like.

First, many gladly gave a gift to good! hands - that is, not very fond of the need (for them) to trade.
And secondly, since much of the commodity-money process can not get away, then hope to find not only "shopkeepers art", but people who know how to sell art at the same time - worthy of any respect for the professionals, who love not only the art of sales, but also the art.

 That is, who decided that the artist needs only money? Not the artist himself. Well, he, through inexperience, might imply that others needed not only to the sale ... And, like, so happens quite often.


 And some, having a negative experience or not dotyagivaya themselves up to impress someone , begin to doubt that it happens, and pull the light of day is wicked "hucksters." But it is rare and usually - in the case. Artists idealists, fortunately . and they are lucky to have normal people.

[AlexanderG]

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=52061

Esli pomnite, my nedavno obsuzdali temu "torgashei "

[Marta]

This is probably a peculiar humor. It sounds, however, just as if the artists referred to themselves Mazilu.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Marta

This is probably a peculiar humor.

Da net, skorei real'nost'

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Berth

It's not that critics can not do it professionally.
The fact that the artists really better listen to other artists. This is especially true artists are not very young. There, for forty. Rather, even at fifty.
The relationship of artists to forty such that the judgments, they do not want to hear because of some jealousy, and listen there is not something special. Senior did not want to because little or no little /envy them, afraid of total carping, and irrational.

But art, in the bulk, and the truth to say anything sensible can not. Elderly do not want to (hurt, they are lazy, etc.). The young can not. Art Technology in universities were poorly taught recently and the day to devote to the development of artistic skills have stopped - had taken to the usual art school - to write, just like real artists the whole day a week, Pts. useful way.

Art Critic, which is necessary - to understand what they do - go to workshops.
 The All-around to this understanding if you want you can learn just for artists. It would be a desire.
I am not one of them drove. Well, I am a third year and worked as director of exhibitions at the House of the artist .

The analysis is done not for the artist. The analysis determines the value of the artist. If you are trading then you know how much more valuable than the original painting. People are paying money for it.

[Причал]

Сообщение от Pavel

The analysis is done not for the artist. The analysis determines the value of the artist. If you are trading then you know how much more valuable than the original painting. People are paying money for it.

No. In one test of novelty, in the absence of other positive qualities, do not pay.
Besides there is absolutely healthy people - there nedoobsledovannye if the viewer does not see where the legs grow, maybe he just is not well know the history of world art

By the way, remember the situation, described by Peter on before the last page

Artist curve, but is silent, if there really zhivoy.Kakoy analysis? Townsfolk listen with bated breath ...

?
So - at a time when the art historian rummages in his "origins" - the artist feels himself caught in plagiarism, yes, and is not alive and dead eu.
But the potential buyer eager to catch the names of artists with whom the perpetrator has compared the art celebration. He is not even very listens to it for what reason they were mentioned. And if even one name of the client mentioned at least once in my life heard - the chances that he will buy a picture of the artist's great increase .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Berth

But the potential buyer eager to catch the names of artists with whom the perpetrator has compared the art celebration. He is not even very listens to it for what reason they were mentioned. And if even one name of the client mentioned at least once in my life heard - the chances that he will buy a picture of the artist's great increase.

That's right!
In this 40-minute speech he had understood nothing, and shudders and begins to listen only when referring to "Chagall, Kandinsky, Soutine, Modigliani's" and understands that in this series most expensive meter falls and our imyarek. "So should we take !",- think listeners.

[Причал]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

That's right!
In this 40-minute speech he had understood nothing, and shudders and begins to listen only when referring to "Chagall, Kandinsky, Soutine, Modigliani's" and understands that in this series most expensive meter falls and our imyarek. "So should we take !",- think listeners.

And can we underestimate Granny something:? D
This is the purest Well NLP, pick-up and gypsy tricks in one bottle - ->
Start again call штоли

[Marta]

I was looking for advice in topics LCR response to one question, and found another very interesting
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=3965

Turns out the author's view, should have several ideas about this artist ....

are most interested:
"... Thus, by 1918 the antagonism between art and the economy does not exist, from artists, critics and speculators common goal - to understand what is important today, and that will be important tomorrow.

The new social mission of art is to reveal the new. The main purpose of the artist - no longer attachment point (the value of imagination), not the image of reality (the value of skill), and even the sincerity of (a romantic value). It should produce something new ...."
Also:
".... Thus, the art market is controlled by five major categories of members: artists, dealers, critics and museum professionals, collectors, the public. Depending on the balance of power between these categories, we are dealing with one of four different art markets:
market "gift of art"
market of art lovers,
speculative market
Prestigious market. ............

And this.

"The first classical economists and Marxists have argued that the value of labor is a major determining the value of the product, but modern economic theory is almost completely abandoned the concept. Neoclassical economists insist on the dichotomy of" benefit - a rarity "........ The notion of" painting " also not clear, it varies depending on whether we are dealing with the market "gift of art", the market of art lovers, speculative or prestigious market .................... .....

And this is perhaps useful to bring order to the head (the artist) is absolutely clear thought
."...... The first two markets "benefit" for the buyer is the fundamental criterion for the two remaining major is "rare" (again, for the buyer )...... "


True, all this is "sharpened" under the situation where the market is already there and the artist is free to try to promote themselves. And further, they say, the market will determine his place.
Previously, such items would be read ....

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Berth

Start again call штоли

Yeah, the list of authors of recent high-profile sales at Sotheby's and Christie's!!!