Education and academic quality, for and against

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

I think that education has never stopped anyone. Especially those masters who knew how to do it (teach). Another question that without special education were artists. Education seems to me, only makes the path to knowledge, but does not guarantee success. Artist with a good academic education is a kind of "handicap" to the self-taught. And what is all about talent and labor ...

Dumaiu, chto obuchenie v masterskoi mastitogo hudoznika, kak v predyduschih stoletiiah, nichem ne huze universitetskogo obrazovaniia.
Diplom ne poluchish ', a segodnia eto schitaetsia nekotorym preimuschestvom

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There are titles such as: People and Honored Artist and Honored Artist. A senior lecturer and professor - a position for those who teach at the Academy.

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Ponial, znachit, k schast'iu, k etomu eschio ne prishli.

Today. unfortunately. production system honored and popular does not exist on skill and merit, and the degree of proximity to those who can give such titles ...

Dumaiu eto problema ne odnoznachna. Naprimer, kak kuratory nabiraiut hudoznikov na svoi proekty - nabiraiut teh, kogo oni znaiut. A segodnia odin chelovek ne mozet obladat 'polnotsennoi informatsiei po takim voprosam. Ee slishkom mnogo.

[iside]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Naprimer, kak kuratory nabiraiut hudoznikov na svoi proekty - nabiraiut teh, kogo oni znaiut. A segodnia odin chelovek ne mozet obladat 'polnotsennoi informatsiei po takim voprosam. Ee slishkom mnogo.

AlexanderG, is lazy curators are doing it.

In Italy, it has become very famous talented young curator of the Alberto Agadzani (Alberto Agazzani), more precisely, there are two characters with whom he had a team Luca Beatrice (Luca Beatrice) and Beatrice Buskaroli (Beatrice Buscaroli) - Curators of the Italian pavilion at the Venice Biennale. So Agadzani implements a very important cultural projects and actually contributes to the revival of figurative painting in Italy (and if it does not do in Italy, it is unclear where this is all done).

For one of its projects (Here is the link, but in Italian, if strongly Interestingly I put) Agadzani collected 120 paintings of Italian living artists, some quite unknown, has traveled all over Italy, stopping in person at the shop and selected works.
Here is the correct way to become famous.

It is not just a curator, he was art historian, critic and journalist, incidentally, and very handsome man.

And what have we? Catherine Tar, which makes his reputation by talking about shit.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iside

And what have we? Catherine Tar, which makes his reputation by talking about shit.

Well, well, Katherina Tar has long been known art critic, curator, art critic, specialist in Russian art of XX-XXI centuries, Ph.D., corresponding member of the Russia Academy of Arts.

She graduated from Moscow State University (Faculty of History, Department of History of Art). She worked as a guide Central Exhibition Hall "Manege" (1981-88), from 1988 - Fellow of the theoretical department of the State Tretyakov Gallery. She worked as a columnist for Kommersant "(1993-2000)," Vedomosti ". Chief-editor section of art portal OpenSpace.ru. Corresponding Member of Arts (2007). Candidate of Art (2004).

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iside

Agadzani collected 120 paintings of Italian living artists, some quite unknown, has traveled all over Italy, stopping in person at the studio and selecting work.

He bought them, these work?
And if you bought, then on their money?
What do you mean, "collected"?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

iside, then two options exist:
1. The curator of the future exhibition invites artists from ponravishimisya it works to participate in the exhibition;
2. Dealer-curator, or curator, the dealer gets things have already hodozhnikov and exposes them as a commercial project.
As a conversation in the first case, I do not know, I have no such experience. I just buy. I already not to pay for a thing, it does not come out of the studio. Exceptions are gifts of the sponsors, but this is not the subject of further commercial traffic, there's way too short, on the wall in the house itself.

[iside]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

not to pay for a thing to her out of the shop did not go out

Cyril Syzransky, in Italy, often done on trust and oral agreements, and use these skillful scam artists. But I may soon see him, be sure to inquire what had happened, I would say Cyril Syzransky from Samara was very interested in the details of your relationship with the artists whose paintings have participated in the exhibition

[Marta]

From the artist friends vasts without at least vocational education ever met several types of gifted people by nature.

Those that have succeeded in a realistic landscape for a good average level, but on the composition of the watch without pain is impossible.
 One artist I know who originally with a cold head oriented to the U.S. commercial galleries. Such amazing типаж artist-businessman. Fully achieved what he wanted. I think that neither is inferior to the artist with the formation, and part-commerce by far.
The most interesting, those who are not trying to tune out the professional art and works in the naive.

But in general, the school - is the base, without her in the fine arts, at least, there is a chance for units. But in the creative destiny of all the school decides not to, and continuous self-improvement and self, an eternal search, the eternal desire .

And for modern art, I think art education is not required. Would be able to generate ideas and a desire to create. On the contrary, at the intersection of education on modern art and education in other areas may have something more interesting, without rehashing.

[Posav]

Сообщение от Marta

Those that have succeeded in a realistic landscape for a good average level, but on the composition of the watch without pain is impossible ..

It's probably just said. I can not imagine how a lover can do without all these figurativom educational productions for drawing a human figure for five, six years. Is that with the help of templates and photoshop.
In addition, fans are not vaccinated against kitsch and so and try to make strawberry or something very commercial moves.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Posav

I can not imagine how a lover can do without all these figurativom educational productions for drawing a human figure for five, six years. Is that with the help of templates and photoshop.

Unfortunately, this further exacerbates the case .. (Only hurts) Painting, separately; Photoshop, separately (these are different genres, and a separate conversation)
Therefore, needs a clear framework that do not allow to behold behold this very "lyubitelschinu, sift it (and no one to show - in the nearest two years at least).

[Peter]

Сообщение от Posav

In addition, fans are not vaccinated against kitsch and so and try to make strawberry or something very commercial chassis.

Quite a few fans who do not have school on their shoulders trying to get the audience to express "his art" without knowing the full language zhivopisi.Prichem it does not prevent certain "facilitators" to present to their men, both professional hudozhnikov.Dazhe in naive art school necessary the ability to build the track, to choose means of expression and t.p.A low-grade products such zaval.Dumaesh just about to write, wasted materials, time, life is finally WHY?