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[luka77]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

luka77, compare themselves.

As I understand it there are three, at least, the difference, if any, to ignore:
original executed on canvas, professionally restored and professionally photographed :-) so, and asked how your opinion about "amateur" work may depend on such factors.

  I would like to hear the opinions of experts in the difference between the original and the options presented, that makes an amateur? in any case, I have no reason to doubt your right, just want to explain to me (he just recently started to get involved, understand the views of interested people)
best regards

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Сообщение от redbor

People respected? Or people understand?
In what sense is "not indifferent"?
They wanted to buy or no longer asked to show?



 In what sense, difficult? You want ustanovat name of the artist-pupil Ivanova?

let's say, people who were respected because of what is meant enjoyed the work, wanted to buy, though it was a long time, then the work did not show
difficult to identify the author, since no signatures are no

[sergejnowo]

luka77, the size of work in the Russian Museum 242 x 321 cm, you have 80 x 100 cm
Compare in a straight is not easy.
If without unnecessary details, the beautiful Ivanova will

[luka77]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

luka77,

Precisely that -

[redbor]

I want to reiterate: y students Ivanova was not.
And his work copied by many.
So the name of the copyist, would be unlikely to know.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

compare to direct is not easy.

It is impossible to explain ... "Your" poorly drawn figure: short arm, torso, too, his head is too large, the figure is not worth it, but ranges ... is not so much ... fan painted ... Even then, he took up this work indicates that, since graduated from the academy would not have taken for it not being absolutely sure that he could, a professional artist always knows his strength.

[наследник]

Сообщение от luka77

that makes the work of an amateur?

 Because there are masterpieces. All known in comparison.

Not necessary to be an art critic, to distinguish talent from mediocrity.
Strange to say, but I think you will understand. Why beautiful car go faster ugly?

[Игорь Гурьев]

In my opinion, this is very funny and expressive copy of the first half of the 19 th century, possibly 1830.

It is often imitated and later, but it was already a distinguished academic style, but here some ridiculous cheap popular, typical of the 1830's.

Who says that?

[SAH]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I think this is very funny and expressive copy

I agree with you, good, likable, expressive and fun, but not more

[luka77]

Ownership of the second quarter of the 19 century - very interesting! practically the same age as the original

[redbor]

Сообщение от luka77

very interesting! practically the same age as the original

1830. perhaps he Ivanov created the initial version of the picture,
later perepisanoy in an improved and enlarged.
 The picture hit the GRM, and the first option, it is not good
author forgot to destroy,
and he had a nearly 2-century found