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[luka77]

Oil on board, 80x100 (presumably the second half of the 19., A student Ivanova). I think the attribution to be very, very difficult

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от luka77

grin on canvas, 80x100 (presumably the second half of the 19., A student Ivanova). I think the attribution to be very, very difficult

Hardly a student Ivanova, a copy of a very weak, at the level of amateur.

[redbor]

Сообщение от K-Maler

That's hardly a disciple Ivanova, a copy of a very weak,

Why not? Students are
different, not all the best students.

Сообщение от luka77

live have seen the same work is also very respected people, and so, the work did not leave anyone indifferent,
with respect,

People are respected? Or people understand?
In what sense is "not indifferent"?
They wanted to buy or no longer asked to show?

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Сообщение от luka77

student Ivanov. I think the attribution to be very, very difficult

In what sense, difficult? You want ustanovat name of the artist-pupil Ivanov?
But, forgive yourself someone suspect?
Ivanov did not give lessons, no one really taught painting and had no students

[наследник]

Сообщение от luka77

I think the attribution to be very, very difficult

Correctly think. Because attribution nothing. All at the amateur level.
By the way, somewhere I have seen this picture. Was he wrong?

[luka77]

Сообщение от heir

Correctly think. Because attribution nothing. All at the amateur level.
By the way, somewhere I have seen this picture. Was he wrong?

Thank you for your opinion, it is quite possible that they saw :-)

[Amateur]

The face and head of Christ written, however, is quite professional. But all the rest ... Indeed, at the amateur level.

[redbor]

Сообщение от heir

By the way, somewhere I have seen this picture. Was he wrong?

still had not seen! "The Appearance of Christ to Mary Magdalene." Ivanov.
Only the lazy are not copied. (of two figures, it is not the "Coming of the Messiah to the people").
Plot popular, copies of similarity among themselves.
 Could this have seen, can be another, the same level ..

[luka77]

Can you please tell that it was done at the amateur level (when compared with the original) and how opinions can vary because of the quality of photos presented here!
ask a question, not just simply are very respected people (albeit virtually) see the work of mediocre and amateurish, but, strangely, live have seen the same work is also highly respected people, and so, the work did not leave anyone indifferent,
best regards,

[sergejnowo]

luka77, compare themselves.

[luka77]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

luka77, compare themselves.

As I understand it there are three, at least, the difference, if any, to ignore:
original executed on canvas, professionally restored and professionally photographed :-) so, and asked how your opinion about "amateur" work may depend on such factors.

  I would like to hear the opinions of experts in the difference between the original and the options presented, that makes an amateur? in any case, I have no reason to doubt your right, just want to explain to me (he just recently started to get involved, understand the views of interested people)
best regards

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Сообщение от redbor

People respected? Or people understand?
In what sense is "not indifferent"?
They wanted to buy or no longer asked to show?



 In what sense, difficult? You want ustanovat name of the artist-pupil Ivanova?

let's say, people who were respected because of what is meant enjoyed the work, wanted to buy, though it was a long time, then the work did not show
difficult to identify the author, since no signatures are no