Charles Saatchi: Sharks are good, and feces artists - too

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Volga flows into the Caspian Sea ... Horses eat oats and hay ... (c)

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Renoir, Utrillo, Kisling, Buffet, Mathieu - lists of those who come to mind - have fallen significantly in price.

It is interesting, I'd look and compare ...

[kozhinart]

The present art - forever !...

In a global sense, yes ... But for some categories of use is difficult, painting, book, even if properly stored as live? ... The idea of the picture forever ... although it is debatable ... I do not want to argue with you, I simply l think ...

[LCR]

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Why? I would very much like you to mention them ... Who are these artists?!

Well, if you so wish, Krasnopevchev per million, remember? A Chubarov do not remember for how much, but something like 500 pieces of pounds?
And this, in my opinion, not all, the holiday has not yet ended

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real art - forever !...

On this point to argue with you not going. But what is this art? Probably everyone on this question my answer, no? )))

[Тютчев]

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In a global sense, yes ... But for some categories of use is difficult, painting, book, even if properly stored as live? ... The idea of the picture forever ... although it is debatable ... I do not want to argue with you, I simply l think ...

I had in mind an art, and not a painting or a book as an object ... Art - as the highest achievement of mankind, as a manifestation of the unique abilities of the individual artist in the reflection of something incomprehensible (you can say or Divine Omnipresent) ... This art has no value because it is unique and has enormous power to influence people ... But I'm talking about real art, not about the art of selling! Although it is also art in its own way ...

[kozhinart]

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I had in mind an art, and not a painting or a book as an object ... Art - as the highest achievement of mankind, as a manifestation of the unique abilities of the individual artist in the reflection of something incomprehensible (you can tell Divine or Omnipresent) ... This art has no value because it is unique and has enormous power to influence people ... But I'm talking about real art, not about the art of selling! Although it is also art in its own way ...

I wrote about the idea of an ideal, it vechno.Absolyut not achievable, but many do not potyaten. People are different ...
And what of the atheists, they were not enough, and people with a different consciousness and morovozreniem? Concept of the uniqueness of human capabilities is very blurry, everyone is different .. Just as the definition of the divine origin of the gift of a divine hudozhnika.A this gift as defined? What criteria?

[Тютчев]

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Well, if you so wish, Krasnopevchev per million, remember? A Chubarov do not remember for how much, but something like 500 pieces of pounds?
And this, in my opinion, not all, the holiday has not yet ended

I knew what you say about Chubarova and Krasnopevtsev ... I can add Kabakov, Vasilyeva, and so forth. I agree with you, they were unsuccessful attempts to raise prices for these artists ... Nobody believed in that for the work Krasnopevtsev could roll away so much money ... With the rest the same thing ... works of these artists are concentrated in the hands of one person in a significant number ... Because it was possible . Is not the case with the works of artists who are rarely found on the market due to the fact that they are mainly in private or museum collections! I'm talking, of course, a relatively old art ... And this is especially true for the Russian art of the 19 th and early 20 th centuries (it is no secret that it is, basically, all the museums, and the best thing)! Historically (nationalization, etc.) ...

[Vladimir]

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I knew what you say about Chubarova and Krasnopevtsev ... I can add Kabakov, Vasilyeva, and so forth. I agree with you, they were unsuccessful attempts to raise prices for these artists ... Nobody believed in that for the work Krasnopevtsev could roll away so much money ... With the rest the same thing ... works of these artists are concentrated in the hands of one person in a significant number ...

All lumped together.

These records.

Dmitry Krasnopevtsev (1925-1995). Still life with three pitchers. 1976. Oil on canvas. 110x68. Estimate: 23-32 tys.funtov. Result: 512 thousand pounds. Sotheby's. 31/05/2006

Eugene Chubarov (b. 1934) Untitled. 1994. Oil on canvas. 300h200. Estimate: 100-150 thousand pounds. Sale price: 720 thousand pounds. Phillips. 22/06/2007


Two works that are next to the auction for the TOP of the sixties, but completely different stories. In late Chubarova sales - on the fingers of one hand. And with the context. We Krasnopevtsev - dozens of sales. A record still life with three pitchers - it is simply a masterpiece, bought with a large overpayment. Because masterpiece. Because the meter thing. Because on the canvas. Because in 1976. Because the exceptional decoration. Work of comparable class in the inheritance Krasnopevtsev can make 10-15 pieces. This is exactly in the top ten. So sravivat in such manner and to talk about stupid promotion in this case is not true. This is an exceptional situation. Typically, the average work Krasnopevtsev are 5-7 times cheaper. And even on this background, his work is underappreciated.

[AlexanderG]

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AlexanderG A vy by otkazalis' u Saatchi vystavit'sia?

You know, I will not dissemble. I would not have refused.

Spasibo!

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Cyril Syzransky Buyer air? This is where this usual? Weácan

Well, because someone buys the product Daniel Hirst!

Nu togda berite shire, kto-to ze pokupaet kartiny. A esli v operu shodit ', chto u vas ostanetsia posle kontserta, av teatr?

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What is air?
This is serious Investment Areas.

I remember, as made out selling off Hurst cafe "Pharmacy", the entire inventory of which (more than 150 subjects) in 2004 was sold at a profit at auction for GBP11, 1 million

Eto ego manager pridumal, ia gde-to vykladyval stat'iu o niom.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

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chto u vas ostanetsia posle kontserta, av teatr?

Like what?
Beal and programm for memory.

[AlexanderG]

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Cyril Syzransky
What is air?
This is serious Investment Areas.

Liubye investitsii, po suti svoei emotsii. Etot segment aktivnosti dvizim zadnost'iu i strahom. Ob'ektivnye fakty, chasten'ko nadumany. Risk ne iskliuchion nigde.

Maybe so, but just about the dispute. Will-I value these products grow in the future?

A eto smotria, kak s nimi rabotat '.

As you know the sad history of financial pyramids, they collapse.

V arte tak ze.

Me as an artist it seems fantasmogoriey. H-P to date, the value of my works $ 8 000 - $ 15 000.
I admit that when !!!!!, literacy and work on my part and from the gallery owners, art dealers and others over many years could raise the price of the order. And that to me is clear and understandable, did not bother and do not worry. But if Mr. Saatchi will display my works, then maybe the price will be space. It is a concern, because something that you create, mixed with emptiness.

Ne soglasen. Vy sozdaiote kartinu, a agent, diler, galerist v kompanii s muzeiami, pressoi, kuratorami, kollektsionerami - sozdaiut tovar.

Eto kliuchevaia mysl '. Tol'ko poniav ee vozmozno osoznanie art rynka.


It's just that agree to accept the proposal to make of her child suddenly Hollywood star. The child is hurt (a child, I mean the creation of the artist).
I shall be very glad if you dispel my "fears"

Mnenie spornoe, mozet povredit, a mozet i net. Eto, kak vy k etomu otnosites'. Al'ternativoi mozet byt '- tiur'ma, zizn' na pomoike i pr.

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Renoir, Utrillo, Kisling, Buffet, Mathieu - lists of those who come to mind - have fallen significantly in price.
Prices Marie Laurence were compared with 1980-90. halved (note, I'm not saying that it is as an artist at all worth something) ...

From the very modern, some Italians and Americans (Kia, Schnabel), included in vogue in the 1980's. also sold cheaper than before. I will not mention the names of some Russian artists

That is, it seems that with the development of the art market and the beginning of the investment purchase of works of art such things were completely normal.

No eto ne znachit, chto v 2015 godu oni ne utroiatsia v tsene (conditions apply )

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Сообщение от Tiutchev

I had in mind an art, and not a painting or a book as an object ... Art - as the highest achievement of mankind, as a manifestation of the unique abilities of the individual artist in the reflection of something incomprehensible (you can tell Divine or Omnipresent) ... This art has no value because it is unique and has enormous power to influence people ... But I'm talking about real art, not about the art of selling! Although it is also art in its own way ...

"Opiat 'za ryby groshi" - net edinogo nastoiaschego. Davaite ze razdeliat 'rynok i estetiku. Nu nichego bez etogo ne poluchitsia, krome rasstroistva.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What's that?
Ticket and programm for memory.

Vot i ia ze ob etom. Prodaiutsia emotsii, vpechatleniia - vozduh, eto potrogat 'nel'zia.
Tsena podramnika s holstom i kraskami, i pochasovoi oplatoi raboty, nikak ne prevoditsia v konechnuiu tsenu kartiny.