Продам: Mikhail Vrubel

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

Before the work Michael has studied preserved frescoes Cyril's Church and St. Sophia Cathedral and St. Michael Cathedral.

He even specifically went to Venice to learn the technique of mosaic.
Ноябрь 84 th to April 85 th.
 And St. Cyril's Church was still the restoration, I remind you.

[uriart]

When something out of stupidity, sold this watercolor.
Now that's trying to buy it back.
I do not know, it will or not.
It was purchased by me in the same family in Kiev.

[Mihail]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

He even specially went to Venice to learn the technique of mosaic.
Ноябрь 84 th to April 85 th.
 And St. Cyril's Church was still the restoration, I remind you.

Something is still revered too. The more you study, the more ambiguity.
Lamentation someone once attributed Vrubel, it is clear to me, and everywhere now it is repeated. But Nesterov did not think of nem.No glavnyi remains that in the Holy Spirit at the time and in other paintings of the same church Vrubel recognizable in Lamentation categorically no, why? Let's restoration, but it requires updating of the old, but the sketch something new. Sketch this in no way coincides with any work Vrubel the time, Which is - nonsense turns ... It remains one and the sketch and painting carried out by someone else, probably someone from the school teachers Murashko.

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Сообщение от Mihail

The only way out and sketch and painting carried out by someone else, probably someone from the school teachers Murashko.

About the painting will not say, but the sketch submitted to me can not reconcile with Vrubel way, I do not see anything there on him and a signature, too, ksatati, bears little resemblance to the author.

[яков]

Сообщение от Mihail

Something is revered too. The more you study, the more ambiguity.
Lamentation someone once attributed Vrubel, it is clear to me, and everywhere now it is repeated. But Nesterov did not think of nem.No glavnyi remains that in the Holy Spirit at the time and in other paintings of the same church Vrubel recognizable in Lamentation categorically no, why? Let's restoration, but it requires updating of the old, but the sketch something new. Sketch this in no way coincides with any work Vrubel the time, Which is - nonsense turns ... It remains one and the sketch and painting carried out by someone else, probably someone from the school teachers Murashko.

Sorry that the Lord not be in your discussions, zasnul.Prezhde all, many thanks to Sergey for the material, which for me personally a lot proyasnyaet.U me, like many of you have also been called into question-hand-Wrubel, now, work at least for myself, I can Set a definite conclusion, Mikhail Aleksandrovich, in this case, followed the style of nearby preserved frescoes [based on photos sent Sergei]. This sketch, in any case, should have been someone that utverzhdatsya, and therefore was podpisan.A pairing official documents that over this fresco in St. Cyril's Cathedral worked exactly Vrubel, I think [pardon] is not in our kompetentsii.V any case, thanks to all participants disskusii.

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Сообщение от yaks

right now, work at least for myself, I can Set clear conclusion, Mikhail Aleksandrovich, in this case, followed the style of nearby preserved frescoes [based on the photographs sent Sergei]. This sketch, in any case should have been someone that utverzhdatsya, therefore, was signed.

Yes, everything is logical, but there is one big "but": Your sketch is not a quality to his claim. There have Vrubel sketches of murals, from which later cartoons did for translating a picture on the wall. This so-so sketch mural sketch. And you have submitted, so pocherkushka, a sketch, a hint, "thinking aloud", so to speak, working material.

[яков]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

About the painting will not say a sketch submitted to me can not reconcile with Vrubel way, I do not see anything there on him and a signature, too, ksatati, bears little resemblance to the author.

And what of Vrubel at the most fresco?
've Got enough work out of the frame, so a better comparison.

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Сообщение от yaks

And what of Vrubel at the most fresco?

Fresco mural, we are discussing the sketch. Or is a fresco? If the fresco, I'll pass, sorry ...

[яков]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Fresco fresco, we are discussing the sketch. Or is a fresco? If the fresco, I'll pass, sorry ...

But if we are talking about this sketch was written Vrubel to implement its work in the Cathedral of St. Cyril and then to compare it with the frescoes.

[Seriy]

Explain to me, stupid, what's the point in these discussions?
Vrubel-natsdostoyanie. So the work attributed to him, whether it looks like - not like, without recognition of the relevant authorities, bodies will not pass.
So why this discussion? what does it affect? Do not like Gogol discussing peasants wheel carts, you will arrive there to Moscow or to Kazan?
just want to understand the meaning ...