Is it possible to create and develop the art market without kommodifikatsii art?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от artcol

The art of Oceania and Africa would also be good to have their own internal national market

Overseas will not say, but in African countries (Africa booooolshaya!) Domestic market exists.

[Posav]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

V sisteme rynochnyh otnoshenii hudoznik iavliaetsia proizvoditelem.
A pochemu, na vash vzgliad, hudoznik ne vpisyvaetsia?

Proizvoditel ', eto ne obiazatel'no rabochii klass. Naprimer intellektual'nyi tovar.

In this scheme probably does not fit the artist and craftsman. You are missed in the chain "media brand" (eg, Hurst), and then executing.

[Вивьен]

Сообщение от Posav

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V sisteme rynochnyh otnoshenii hudoznik iavliaetsia proizvoditelem.
A pochemu, na vash vzgliad, hudoznik ne vpisyvaetsia?

Proizvoditel ', eto ne obiazatel'no rabochii klass. Naprimer intellektual'nyi tovar.

In this scheme probably does not fit the artist and craftsman. You are missed in the chain "media brand" (eg, Hurst), and then executing.

You can call an artist not a producer, a man in a burst of inspiration, creating a product (artwork). By the way, can still be the producer of art to call.
 And the artist - this is a craftsman, as well as the appearance of his work - this is a craft, with his hands something to produce.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от artcol

Of course necessary. For the art of Oceania and Africa would also be good to have their own internal national market <!--~ 1 ~-->

Ob Afrike ne skazu, no Avstraliiskii art rynok ne zavisit ot mezdunarodnyh prodaz. Etot rynok huze ili luchshe podderzivaet 250,000 hudoznikov.

Vnizu pritsepil otryvochek iz stat'i. V srednei kolonke posmotrite na tsifry, i eto bylo okolo 20 let nazad.

V Au okolo 500 kommercheskig galerei, mnozestvo auktsionnyh domov, ne schitaia museev, publichnyh galerei, art tsentrov i pr.

Poetomu vneshnii rynok dlia Au imeet znachenie, kak ploschadka dlia rosta tsen (na mirovom urovne), mirovoi izvestnosti (vanity). Segodniashnii Au art rynok ne mozet pokazat 'takoi ze uroven' tsen, kak USA ili GB, no tem ne menee on samodostatochen.

Сообщение от Posav

In this scheme probably does not fit the artist and craftsman. You are missed in the chain "media brand" (eg, Hurst), and then executing.

Imia hudoznika i est 'brend. Imena v dannoi situatsii ne vazny.

Odna i ta ze kartina vosproizvedionnaia raznymi avtorami (raznyi brend) budet stoit 'po - raznomu.

V dannoi teme, ia ne rassmatrivaiu esteticheskie tsennosti, a tol'ko rynochnye otnosheniia.

Otdel Marketinga sozdaiot brend (imia hudoznika), kogda eta komanda uspeshna - prodazi sootvetstvuiuschie.

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Сообщение от Vivien

can be called an artist not a producer, a man in a burst of inspiration, creating a product (artwork). By the way, can still be the producer of art to call.
 And the artist - this is a craftsman, as well as the appearance of his work - this is a craft, with his hands something to produce.

Ia pytaius 'uiti ot emotsii, a traktovat' eti poniatiia s pozitsii rynka.

[NATA NOVA]

http://leagilar.livejournal.com/185114.html\r\n How will it be in Russian?

[artcol]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

overseas will not say, but in African countries (Africa booooolshaya!) Domestic market there.

And in Russia it exists. I do not say that he was absent. 2 auctions (or 3?), 100 pieces of art galleries, so this site has appeared. Yes, there is a market. But mostly within the Moscow Ring Road.

Shl "The country we have more from Moscow otedesh - so once the country and going ..." DAPrigov

[NATA NOVA]

Topic name:
 "Is it possible to create and develop without artrynka kommodifikatsii art?"
My translation:
Is it possible to create and develop market for art without becoming objects of art into a commodity?
 I correctly translated? (realized)

[Pavel]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

V sisteme rynochnyh otnoshenii hudoznik iavliaetsia proizvoditelem.
A pochemu, na vash vzgliad, hudoznik ne vpisyvaetsia?

Proizvoditel ', eto ne obiazatel'no rabochii klass. Naprimer intellektual'nyi tovar.

Vam opiat rasskazat pro aukcion?
I have already said art is valuable luxury item.

[Артём]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Is it possible to create and develop market for art without becoming objects of art into a commodity?
I correctly translated? (understand)

Right. Impossible!

Сообщение от Vivien

V sisteme rynochnyh otnoshenii hudoznik iavliaetsia proizvoditelem.

Naturally! If an artist is not to be and producer, it is generally not needed on this earth. Just a man with a bike! - No one and his name does.

[Pavel]

Word-market-implied goods and profits, but also implies the freedom of buying and selling. The market is hundreds of auctions a day throughout the country. This is possible only in public administration, and in which we now turn somersaults can only power crime. I personally know of and never will.