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Старый 09.11.2009, 16:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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In Soviet times, artists were forced to live on a double standard. Yes, the state gave the orders and controlled the artists, but they are something between a state-wing mat, and orders are not called otherwise than by the word "trash". We tried to hurry this "hack" painted and easily pass the admission committee. And so there were no problems, must have his people in key positions, so for these positions was a fierce struggle. Fate and the quality of the paintings did not worry anybody. I took their "Hurray", in others - were cut. And to justify this attitude came up with excuse: Behold, they say, hack I write - this is for earnings and for creativity in the studio, I write quite another. This dual approach is unnatural, but it is still very popular among artists. By habit, all that is done to order, is considered the "hack". Now they say: for the gallery - "plywood", and for exhibitions and for themselves - work. But man can not write one now with talent, and the other mediocre. This is called a split personality. As a result, the artist had either shalturivatsya (there were many, for they do not require effort), or to break off all relations with this flawed system to maintain its "I" (those little calls for courage), or try to include any work creatively, that to himself was not ashamed (of too little, and walked along this road is mainly a landscape painter, because apolitical genre).
This atmosphere of duplicity has created the special nature of man, particularly psychology. And this mentality is very difficult relationship gallerist and artist.
  Decide on what time you write. Read carefully you have written.
"In Soviet times, artists were forced to live on a double standard." - Yes even on a triple and pyaternomu.Net already these hudozhnikov.Fizicheski.V overwhelmingly gone to another world.
"This atmosphere of duplicity has created the special nature of man, particularly psychology. And this mentality is very difficult relationship gallerist and artist." - So who of who is and who is NOW that defines? What generation suchit legs with hack-work under his arm at the door of the gallery? Is psychology of today's generation is determined by the "soviet" way of life, who has played in the box with the USSR.
"By habit, all that is done to order, is considered" hack ». Now they say: for the gallery -" plywood ", and for exhibitions and for themselves - work." - why, the exhibition now are held in galleries, and organize their gallery in order to further "the promotion and sales. Not stick. Common sense .... Or perhaps a special place should know.
About Samara. What a charade-P in "Van Gog? And there is none ....



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Старый 09.11.2009, 16:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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There is already such hudozhnikov.Fizicheski.V overwhelmingly gone to another world.
Eat. Soviet Union ended in December 1991. 18 years ago and if the artist was then 40 years, for example, now ... 7 writing, 2 in mind ... not very old and dolzhOn something to be. Well, you live something like, eh?



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Старый 09.11.2009, 17:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Yes. Soviet Union ended in December 1991. 18 years ago and if the artist was then 40 years, for example, now ... 7 writing, 2 in mind ... not very old and dolzhOn something to be. Well, you live a just and?
There are certainly more old people. But the balance is not in favor of the living. May God grant them all many years and health!



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Yes. Soviet Union ended in December 1991. 18 years ago and if the artist was then 40 years, for example, now ... 7 writing, 2 in mind ... not very old and dolzhOn something to be. Well, you live a just and?
Why all the arifmetika.So L. Brezhnev's death, all rapidly rolled down. "Feeders" abruptly emptied. A couple of years of inertia and the agenda was released, the retention of real estate (shops, showrooms, etc.) and theft of funds. The process has started and in 1991 he had already received an avalanche process of privatization and prisvoeniya.Uzhe nor any Why not create - were seized and carried, who as mog.A those who thought it possible to participate in this orgy, elementary in poverty or left outside.



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Старый 09.11.2009, 17:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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For no one or anything not created - were seized and carried, much as they could.
There is, unfortunately, a large proportion of the truth ... But still good artists were emerging. Collapsed system of "training" - obrazavyvat was no one ... But the earth is full of talent ....



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Старый 10.11.2009, 00:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Decide on what time you write. None of these have hudozhnikov.Fizicheski.V vast majority went to another world.
so who of who is and who is NOW that defines?
What a charade-P in "Van Gog? And what is not ....
Sorry Vyacheslav, if it was too harsh or something hurt you, tried to write shorter. I'm talking about the artists, members of SC who were born in the period from 30's to late 50's approximately. The nature and psychology of these artists forged in the Brezhnev era. Anywhere they are not gone, and not extinct. Many of them are alive and well and occupy senior positions in the Union, and is still fighting for them. I'm not in vain asked you: what is the average age of members of the Samara CX? And these artists, who are now between 60 to 80 years is quite strong guys and is sell their paintings including through our gallery. And let him try gallerist vyaknut anything against any member of the Board. He quickly send away for a long time. A younger generation of artists, unfortunately, lives on the principle: "The parents eat sour, and the children are set on edge.
About VZ Purygin. The epithet "Van Gogh" in relation to him I did not invent, it is a journalistic invention. I stress again, I'm not talking about the work of this artist. I'm talking about his personality. And the character he was, to put it mildly, esktravagantny. For example, he wore a pair of pliers in his pocket, and if it is something disliked, could take them and say: I told you now nose otkushu. He could have a bite to eat cigarette butt. I could go specifically in torn shoes and jackets. Initially left the party, and then came in again, attended all meetings and rallies, with Makashov hug How do you think it's easy gallerist with such a man to cooperate? When nobody knows what he will come up with tomorrow? Not everyone will stand the.



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Старый 10.11.2009, 01:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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And the character he was, to put it mildly, esktravagantny. For example, he wore a pair of pliers in his pocket, and if it is something disliked, could take them and say: I told you now nose otkushu. He could have a bite to eat cigarette butt. I could go specifically in torn shoes and jackets. Initially left the party, and then came in again, attended all meetings and rallies, with Makashov hug How do you think it's easy gallerist with such a man to cooperate? When nobody knows what he will come up with tomorrow? Not everyone will stand the.
Did eccentricity shameful quality or a criminal?



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propose admins make the forum an interpreter in a third language - the language of Paul.
We have already tried - failed.
I do not remember saying I was or not, but here recently had to deal with officials. Chas official told something. Folding with the correct case and Russian words. An hour later I honestly confessed that he did not understand what they mean. You know what he answered? He made a theatrical pause, and said: - That's right, no one understands, it is difficult, even there (here he raised his eyes upward) do not understand. Okay easier to explain. "And for another hour. But I did not understand, then a more intelligent and experienced fellow workers explained. Although I am still not convinced of the correctness of our conjectures.



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Старый 10.11.2009, 10:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #9
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We have already tried - failed.
I do not remember saying I was or not, but here recently had to deal with officials. Chas official told something. Folding with the correct case and Russian words. An hour later I honestly confessed that he did not understand what they mean. You know what he answered? He made a theatrical pause, and said: - That's right, no one understands, it is difficult, even there (here he raised his eyes upward) do not understand. Okay easier to explain. "And for another hour. But I did not understand, then a more intelligent and experienced fellow workers explained. Although I am still not convinced of the correctness of our conjectures.
I am not obliged explains the most basic things that everyone should know who is engaged in the arts. Generally it is a complicated thing and do one of the Internet is impossible, you need a lot to read, to experience and general feel.

Cyril, Ava lied - your protégé graduated from the Theater Institute and has a higher artistic education. Firstly he got it not in Israel, and secondly, he certainly has worked in three places in the theater Kuibyshev. Basis is but I would not put him as a trader. Why? You'll find out gradually.

About VZ Purygin. The epithet "Van Gogh" in relation to him I did not invent, it is a journalistic invention. I stress again, I'm not talking about the work of this artist. I'm talking about his personality. And the character he was, to put it mildly, esktravagantny. For example, he wore a pair of pliers in his pocket, and if it is something disliked, could take them and say: I told you now nose otkushu. He could have a bite to eat cigarette butt. I could go specifically in torn shoes and jackets. Initially left the party, and then came in again, attended all meetings and rallies, with Makashov hug How do you think it's easy gallerist with such a man to cooperate? When nobody knows what he will come up with tomorrow? Not everyone will stand the. [/QUOTE]

A Purygin a decent man.



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Старый 10.11.2009, 10:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #10
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Kirill, Ava lied - your protégé graduated from the Theater Institute and has a higher art education.
Where have I lied?
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Kletzel Veniamin Mikhailovich (05. 05. 1932) studied in Tashkent College of Arts and Theater Institute. Ostrovsky (art department).
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Firstly, he got it not in Israel
You read carefully before accusing anyone of lying.

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and secondly, he certainly has worked in three places in the theater Kuibyshev.
In Kuibyshev, while there were 4 theater in any did not work as artistic director.



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