Relationship and mutual obligations between the artist and gallery owners

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Сообщение от Konstantin

Here are just understandable. If a case is correct and gallery of work and money invested in the promotion of the artist (a hundred times saying how), then to not have a situation-like artist, paintings, too, but I'll go buy directly to the artist because the lowest price. And the gallery is out of work.

As far as I know, the galleries do not do anything for nothing. Choose and reserve a couple of works.
And that means no inheritance? Exhibitions that for nothing? Former Pioneers and the police also handed out candy? A percentage of sales.
  Yes, and ascribe artists as peasants and estates in the 21 st Century - Do you approve?

Сообщение от dedulya37

A contract with the gallery, he showed you?

Even though a familiarity, would not ask pokazat.Esli used only by the artist himself .... And so, and did not mean to ask about the papers do not belong to me.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

Yes, and ascribe artists as peasants and estates in the 21 st Century - Do you approve?

Interesting sight. (Need to think) ..

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

Even though a familiarity, would not ask pokazat.Esli used only by the artist himself .... And so, and did not mean to ask about the papers do not belong to me.

I do not mean that you do not trust the artist.
I was curious what penalties in the contract, because an artist sells a picture on the side. "

[Konstantin]

Yes, and ascribe artists as peasants and estates in the 21 st Century - Do you approve?

That same treaty process, but not violent.
If the artist already venerable and called-(as our Paul for example) and it is all, then yes lock on to any gallery not needed.
And if he can not sell, then come to an agreement with a gallery of some conditions. But conditions may be different, and more importantly are not conditions, but that the result was - the sale.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Konstantin

If an artist already venerable and relevant and should turn to him, let him tied to any gallery not need to.

Sovershenno ne soglasen. Uspeshnym mozet byt 'tol'ko simbioz. Redkie iskliucheniia, lish 'podtverzdaiut pravilo.
Mozet byt 'ne tol'ko galereia, no i agent, predstavitel'.

Naprimer, ia budu v skorosti zakryvat 'svoiu bol'shuiu galereiu, ostavliu malen'kuiu "by appointment only", a bol'shie vystavki budu delat', kak i seichas, v drugih prisposoblennyh pomescheniiah i galereiah. Tem samym ia smogu vysvobodit 'bol'she sredstv (ne platia postoiannnyi rent) i vremeni na konsul'tativnuiu rabotu.

Uze daze nachal perestraivat 'website.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Konstantin

This same treaty process, but not violent.
If the artist already venerable and called-(as our Paul for example) and it is all, then yes lock on to any gallery not needed.
And if he can not sell, then come to an agreement with a gallery of some conditions. But conditions may be different, and more importantly are not conditions, but that the result was - the sale.

The agreement defines the relationship of the artist with the dealer. This does not mean that the artist must become a trader for conclusion. I had already spoken about that artist signing an agreement in America puts the work in Moscow, at the same time I knew that the contract specifies a monopoly on the work of this artist, or with Steinberg, I was not sure. It is always a question of decency.
But the artist's many ways to circumvent the treaty especially when he is not satisfied by the merchant. Especially we have no where to put trade and decency trader determined gentleman he or someone why not Pharaoh or not a member of the royal family?
Usually dishonest traders and behave rude act like these gentlemen, in fact, trying every possible way to cheat the artist. For example using the fact that it is difficult to control the sale, conceal about the artist and pay a price much lower than the agreement.
  Rusanov vainly puffed up-sell if sold, but the work is not original, obviously commercial work. Ability to have little creativity.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

The agreement defines the relationship of the artist with the dealer.

Сообщение от Pavel

the artist must become a trader

Сообщение от Pavel

especially when he is not satisfied by the dealer.

Сообщение от Pavel

decency trader determined gentleman he or someone why not Pharaoh or not a member of the royal family?

Сообщение от Pavel

Typically dishonest traders

Сообщение от Pavel

behave rude

Сообщение от Pavel

secret about the artist and pay a price much lower than the agreed

Yes, with "dealers" you have obviously had bad relationships.
Hating him and radiates from you.
: D: D: D

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, with "dealers" you have obviously had bad relationships.
Hating him and radiates from you.
: D: D: D

You, too, a trader? Well, excuse me. where I said that I hate someone else. Disregard for the lack of professionalism, I would say. Cyril you again for poems about Voroshilov? Pofessionalizma few of our merchants. It is dangerous to communicate with them, the morality of low-cheat can, but I do not want to do more repeats itself. You tire, you still need explains.

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

1. Pkazhite example (although the fact that you have already shown the absence of clear school (art mean)
2. "Girlfriend?"-No, of course, but now probably just going.
3. You would "Low Art"-th do - Rothko, there HOrstom ... (council) and other money, and know a better.
Why do you? Each "his boots "...( it from a fable)
And where do d-d is not? (Vydavdivayte of a "scoop "!!!)

Nata that will squeeze out when the shovel-hamlo, lowbrow, criminal mug. Think what you say.

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Paul! We're all still talking about the relationship of the artist with the gallery. The concept of a trader greatly narrows the scope of what should be dealt galereist. It is still more characteristic of a street hawker, peddler, etc.
It certainly does not degrade, but slightly simplifies the presentation of the completeness of gallery work.

then you do not trade in your gallery. You can call Passage, as I will not mention the content of one-Trade. It's not the name but in the relation between Marchand and the artist and buyer. One wants to sell expensive other better and cheaper to buy and all. Next depends on what purpose and who is buying, and gallery owner in the decency to the buyer for their money got something valuable, but not bananye birches or lilac in the same bank under the guise of lilacs. Do not blow up trying to be the case.

Сообщение от Seriy

Semen Semenovich, now you will open a terrible secret-Picasso has written thousands of paintings, some say about 18 000. In the year could create hundreds of works. Kandinsky something like the same, I suspect the hundreds of works per year. You can call them "sprinkler". Same - Burliuk, same-DG Hirst. Van Gogh wrote a work for two (2) hours. Moreover, a number of works - a portrait of a thread Madame Brochet - a variation of white blouse, a green blouse, black blouse. How does it hang in a gallery?
The artist has a profusion of talent, IMHO, is related traits.

Do not get me wrong, I'm not on your nelly not detract from your work, I only say that the method is good only for a limited number of cases.
Well, you signed the proposed agreement with Vincent Van Gogh, took his Multi base operations. The next day he comes to you and brings a new work -
- What is it?
- It's Portrait of Dr. Gachet.
- But I already have one!
- And this one with blue buttons, and so lines on the background wave ...
- So what? I have not sold the old, the price you SUCH appointed ...
- Well, Semen Semenovich, so I have written two portraits of Madame Brochet. Here black and white jabot blouse, but here all the same, but slightly greenish .. Take it.
- Vincent, you are in your mind? You have already offered me that an old Madame in three forms. Go write a bouquet of roses, a bottle of champagne there, a couple of wine glasses with gold - the type holiday evening ...
  ... Vincent spent three days and brings two more Madame Brochet. This collaboration is over, somebody or is taken to a mad house.

You're right but do not forget that Vincent was the largest trader in the firm and knew all otorgovle pictures. He gave the portrait and did tutzhe option or repeat for my brother. Refunded.
But in his manner, and never in a strange taste or in order to please the customer.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

For example using the fact that it is difficult to control the sale, conceal about the artist and pay a price much lower than the agreement.

Paul! In fact, the sale of control very easily, and the price is very difficult to hide. Most visit the gallery, which is the collaboration (if of course there is). If your gallery in America, as a rule (if it is not underground), where prices are set on the site and are publicly available. In my experience, the American galleries work on a 50x50 (45x55 happened yet). And when selling you should get your percentage. True, there rogues enough. And if you do not have a trusted person who can control the process - there are different possible "dance steps" in the performance gallery.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

with the dealer.

Paul! We're all still talking about the relationship of the artist with the gallery. The concept of a trader greatly narrows the scope of what should be dealt galereist. It is still more characteristic of a street hawker, peddler, etc.
It certainly does not degrade, but slightly simplifies the presentation of the completeness of gallery work.