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Старый 17.09.2009, 17:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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The precipitate remained.
Exactly sediment. Whether he stole it, or whether he had.
If you want to understand the phenomenon, more or less closer to the truth, can not use the version of only one of the parties. One should not lose sight of the context of time and personal relationships
It was the Cold War. Some voluntarily, others involuntarily became soldiers of the ideological front. And in war as in war, their actions geroiziruyutsya, and the actions of the enemy okarikaturivayutsya.
Is the threat to the regime those artists who have become spokespersons for the twelve exhibitors Bulldozer exhibition? Of course not! Even with the hint of a threat to the state would be erased them in powder. What made it decisively and with regard to those dissenters who were perceived as ideological enemies.
Meanwhile, it condoned mischief of these artists. They could write what they wanted and were free to sell their work, and those who were connected with dipartom, living in a material sense, not worse, if not better than the official artists.
SINYAVSKY said that he had with the Soviet authorities purely stylistic differences. At the informal leader of the unofficial artists Oscar Rabin did not even have any.
Look at his paintings of those years. With a picturesque point of view - it is quite ordinary MOSH, closer to its left wing. No subversive innovation. For others it will be more abruptly. Take the same artists "severe style". They then, as time and a little afraid of little gifts of nomenclature CX.
State did not suit the plot O. Rabin. They contradicted the ideological doctrine, under which the Soviet people - a nation of historical optimism. Indeed, not much optimism in the works of Oscar Yakovlevich not place them in the exhibition spaces, the owner of that State.
And in this - opportunities to exhibit in a public exhibition spaces, the meaning was ostensibly a demonstration to Belyaev wasteland.
All participants were aware of the action of the realities of the time and that a similar demonstration at the desired state is not obtained, but also realized that the hard consequences will not come. In such a case from their side it was a well-planned provocation, where the most important role was assigned to the Western press. Only V. Vorobiev led to this event 10 Western photojournalists. What he wanted, and that, eventually, got as a result of this action - the question still open.

History is still awaiting study behind the scenes of many events of our recent past, including Bulldozer and performance, and subsequent exhibitions in VDNH, and the creation of Section at the city committee schedules, and funding of the magazine "AZ", and Moscow Sotheby's 1988, and the country has auctions abroad, organized Drobitsky. So who, where, when and with what chemical to another deal.

As the stories of these "mustard gas", it is just one example of when you should take into account the human qualities of the characters. You had to know the peculiar character and temperament of the Jura hot, it giperkofliktnost and phenomenal ability to amass enemies, which in the end, he fell out with everyone, including friends, gallery owners, they were engaged, well-wishers and admirers of his rare creativity.
  And now imagine that not very competent police officer placed to look after foreigners in contact with the weird artist, what is in those times of the Cold War was quite a common practice not only for us but on the other side of the Atlantic (though perhaps not so clumsy).
Well, Jura, get caught him by the policeman's hot hand could he not only skazanut something such things, but zvezdanut in the forehead.
A Western voices and newspapers immediately told to the world that the Soviet Union for the progressive non-conformist art were put on 15 days of a young talented artist.

In general, it is clear what I mean. Not so long ago had occasion to hear from V. Yankylevsky: "When will this documentary book about us? So far, no true ".
Then, when will the era of imposture, holuystva and boorishness. While there are interested in the distortion of history and those who can influence this process, this book will not.



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Старый 17.09.2009, 18:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Finally the message number 82 could be read objective information, which I actually wanted.
  Thank you very much.



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Старый 17.09.2009, 18:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Their police at the first attempt of aggression, opposition, or did not like the constant rozhy or pictures otdubasili to clubs and their journalists, and then fined and be healthy. There, these guys have long walk with revolvers and heavy with no education.
  Rabin himself probably completely bewildered after what vParizhe was complete denial. It said on RFI. So he positioned himself as a Jewish artist as Komar and Melamid, Ernst unknown but almost everything.
In Rabin's just not art



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Старый 17.09.2009, 19:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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They are the police at the first attempt of aggression, counter or post not like rozhy or pictures otdubasili to clubs and their and journalists, and then fined bless you. There, these guys have long walk with revolvers and education is not heavy with.
Say, you do not say the name-Rodney King?



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Старый 17.09.2009, 19:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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And what is it I should say?



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Старый 17.09.2009, 19:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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And what is it I should say?
Yes they should not. Absolutely.
Just thought makes it possible for your text on the police.



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Старый 17.09.2009, 20:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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Yes, they should not. Absolutely.
Just thought makes it possible for your text on the police.
Well this is America, there is a black potential criminals. I have seen in France for the first time in the open gun holster. and patrols with carbines and how demenstrantov chased little black and sellers. Rough guys.
By the way at the expense of the exhibition, told me how chasing our artists podrobatyvayuschih at Notre Dame, they were calculated on the painter's case and seems fined.



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Oh, no. Rather, we must speak as managed all the good that has been created in the social scorn, trample into the mud and slander, and to borrow from the West-USA the most rotten, but in a beautiful package of democracy.
United States, but U.S. ...
Posav You have probably never been in our middle band? Year of some sort in the 80-m. Only the Olympics probably remember. In our strong collective visited? Where there were no roads, where the 30 residential houses of the village was 3, where all adult men, or sit, or just came out. Where there was nobody to collect the harvest, and what to collect - rotted at the bases. You probably did not go to work on the base berebirat vegetables and do not know what it smelled? It's also hurting the U.S.? Especially at the bases of their agents tried. : D Прикольно, as the moon fell. Or you much less than the age you specify.



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United States, but U.S. ...
Posav You have probably never been in our middle band? Year of some sort in the 80-m. Only the Olympics probably remember. In our strong collective visited? Where there were no roads, where the 30 residential houses of the village was 3, where all adult men, or sit, or just came out. Where there was nobody to collect the harvest, and what to collect - rotted at the bases. You probably did not go to work on the base berebirat vegetables and do not know what it smelled? It's also hurting the U.S.? Especially at the bases of their agents tried. : D Прикольно, as the moon fell. Or you much less than the age you specify.
Poor, poor, as you got. And we have a collective we students moonlight-painting, driveways and so earned. And how fed into the collective farm dining piece of lamb with a garnish-plate, soup bowl, spoon stands, tomatoes, beritebesplatno and beer, a fresh draft. Where did you live miserable?
Trip to Mezhdurechensk-almost-mountain resort deltoplaneristy. Dining at the mine's story pies five cents of the entire dinner 70.
Road there and back for free.
Grandpa, how many times you were in Artek? Weirdly there suffering?



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Grandpa, how many times you were in Artek? Weirdly there suffering?
In Artek was only once - a friend drove her daughter to the camp.



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