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Сообщение от Konstantin

Yes, and a strange discussion. Topic author tries to convince forumchan that picture with a high level of painting, depicts a beautiful woman and that it Akhmatova. If the author and so it knows what the question?

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Thank you for not insisting that it Kuinji.

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About devil evil eye, while writing, and in this respect perhaps there is a hint that it is Modigliani.

Mr. Admin! Discussion also in my opinion .... strange even to me and you are trying to ascribe those beliefs that are not ...:
1. I'm trying to draw attention to the level, because it has inv. № - then it somewhere has been registered and is a strange word "SPECIAL"
2. I never said that it was a beautiful woman: her some furomchane called urodkoy, "Stebaev" and t.d.po-this I gave the example of Maria de Medici ....
3. I drew attention to Modigliani to mean that the artist has the right to offer their own vision of nature that he did not reproduce with accuracy, but rather to offer schematic manner, ie frees to viewers imagination.
4. I never insist that depicts Anna Akhmatova, I just assumed
5. Some forumcanam I am grateful for the careful approach to teme.Tolko some tried to turn the discussion in "banter" at me. In vain did, it does no credit to them, although they are in the rank of "experienced" and "authority" (strange skills!! Just like the ground is not so Dep ......)
6. But with Kuindzhi ... You too hvatanuli .....
7. Topic author does not know everything ... no pictures of the author and not the name of nature .....

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Сообщение от Yaya

Fordochka, and that? is well-known works, all of them have seen. what do you mean?

... I have already said, that she wanted to .... Your velichistvenny tone, and your heavenly view ...... I'm not inclined to surrender .....!!!)))))

[Allena]

Сообщение от Fordochka

strange word "SPECIAL"

I did not want to interfere in the discussion, but I found it interesting that: the word "SPECIAL" seems to me that might mean staying in the work of some special depositories. Perhaps the author was arrested, and the work was confiscated. Perhaps not the author, and the model, if it is a real person, but I think that after all the author. Why Spetskhran, rather than destruction? I do not know.
Cyril Syzransky, what do you think?
Fordochka, you do not get me wrong, and begin to dig up the provenance. If the work was delivered to you accidentally, then it will be difficult. But still, I believe, in this case is necessary to first explore the painting and not the possible identity of the model, and the history of existence of the picture, stock number, etc. Then, perhaps, find the name of the author.

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Сообщение от Allena

I did not want to interfere in the discussion, but I found it interesting that: the word "SPECIAL" seems to me can mean staying in the work of some special depositories. Perhaps the author was arrested, and the work was confiscated. Perhaps not the author, and the model, if it is a real person, but I think that after all the author. Why Spetskhran, rather than destruction?

Some fantastic version ... Probably the word "SPECIAL" is a place where the painting hung. Type detention center, penal institutions, special section, etc. Probably the first Before Spetskhran it clearly falls short of their standards.

[Allena]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

To Spetskhran it clearly falls short of their standards.

As regards the level of agree, but still believe that it is the word "special" should serve as a starting point in the investigation. It could in fact be true: the artist was arrested and taken everything that was in the studio - and its work, and students, for example, but you never know what might be in the studio.

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Сообщение от Allena

Cyril Syzransky, what do you think?

You are asking me about it?

Сообщение от Fordochka

I'm trying to draw attention to the level, because it has inv. № - then it somewhere has been registered and is a strange word "SPECIAL"

I have nothing about this, I think.
But this

Сообщение от Allena

the words "SPECIAL" seems to me can mean staying in the work of some special depositories. Perhaps the author was arrested, and the work was confiscated. Perhaps not the author, and the model, if it is a real person, but I think that after all the author. Why Spetskhran, rather than destruction? I do not know.

answer that.
Yes, the museums were stored for a while portraits of "enemies of the people," the authors of the repressed, poizvedeniya Russian avant-recognized "formalistkim" etc.
But, as a rule, these works have been translated into scientific and auxiliary equipment, as having no artistic value, without stretchers were kept in special sealed packets of rolls and in special stacks. Expose their employees could not even up to the museum directors. "Headed" by those written off, but not destroying the works of local staff "LTL" (censor, the General Administration of literature and publishing).

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Сообщение от Allena

Do not want to interfere in the discussion, but I found it interesting that: the word "SPECIAL" seems to me can mean staying in the work of some special depositories. Perhaps the author was arrested, and the work was confiscated. Perhaps not the author, and the model, if it is a real person, but I think that after all the author. Why Spetskhran, rather than destruction? I do not know.

Сообщение от Fordochka

I would add that on the back of immetsya stamp, blurred blue, inv number 68, and the date of 31.03.1962

All did not 38 th.

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Fordochka, I hope you already realized that your portrait is not Anna Akhmatova.
The assumption that it is she looks incredible, knowing the level of artists around her. Themselves have already watched her portraits, saw the authors.
One would assume that someone from the boys Ardov dabbled in painting and tried to "portray" Aunt Anna, but data on their "arts" I do not know. Refer to Alexei Batalov, he is the eldest of them, everything about everybody remembers and knows.

[Allena]

stamp, vague blue, inv number 68, and the date of 31.03.1962

Fordochka, dig the history of existence. Restore the stamp, learn, how could appear the word "special". If you continue to adhere to your version of Akhmatova (I, like all of us, too, think it is wrong), then look for evidence of provenance. Perhaps you are waiting for discovery!

[Samvel]

Сообщение от Fordochka

3. I drew attention to Modigliani to mean that the artist has the right to offer their own vision of nature that he did not reproduce with accuracy, but rather to offer schematic manner, ie frees to viewers imagination.

Fordochka: Look me how V. Pakulin in the 30th years, offers his vision of nature, and how to reproduce, in a similar pastanovke.

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Сообщение от Samvel

Fordochka: Look me how V. Pakulin in the 30th years, offers his vision of nature, and how to reproduce, in a similar pastanovke.

Thank you for having responded to adequately, I just enjoy such communication ... by the way read how to discuss other work - I liked these discussions are constructive ...)))))) Once again, thank ...
Miss some information about the picture: it has the dimensions 39h60, oil /canvas, a frame of raw wood in some places. Colors look better than in the photo (Right now I would like to propose the rules, so that s been vozvozhnost editing the first record a new theme ..) The picture has lost his master, who apparently lived modestly. He kept her from what is personal motives: either because of familiarity with the author or a kind .. I'm very grateful for the suggestions ... who arrived last ..... thanks, that did not trouble to reply ... As for Anna Akhmatova (more in some time) I repeat, do not insist .... I thought that the experts without difficulty or can confirm or deny ... Thank you all ...
If that "Naroyu" - always boast forum ....)))))