Charles Saatchi: Sharks are good, and feces artists - too

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от LCR

Well, if you so wish, Krasnopevchev per million, remember? A Chubarov do not remember for how much, but something like 500 pieces of pounds?
And this, in my opinion, not all, the holiday has not yet ended

I knew what you say about Chubarova and Krasnopevtsev ... I can add Kabakov, Vasilyeva, and so forth. I agree with you, they were unsuccessful attempts to raise prices for these artists ... Nobody believed in that for the work Krasnopevtsev could roll away so much money ... With the rest the same thing ... works of these artists are concentrated in the hands of one person in a significant number ... Because it was possible . Is not the case with the works of artists who are rarely found on the market due to the fact that they are mainly in private or museum collections! I'm talking, of course, a relatively old art ... And this is especially true for the Russian art of the 19 th and early 20 th centuries (it is no secret that it is, basically, all the museums, and the best thing)! Historically (nationalization, etc.) ...

[Хранитель укропа]

Сообщение от LCR

.. Cyril - Fortuny , Mason , Jerome .. and even Monticelli .. was very expensive .. Daumier and Courbet also in constant francs were more expensive than it is now . Renoir, Utrillo , Kisling , Byuffe , Mathieu .. significantly dropped in price .
Prices of Marie Laurencin .. halved .. Italians and Americans Kia Schnabel .. sold for less than before.

I will not mention the names of some Russian artists <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

About Russian artists would also be interested to hear your opinion , self-expression in their work understandable to us , and the self comes to the body , and your eyes from a distance would be interesting ..

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от ikoku

Cyril Syzransky
What is air?
This is serious Investment Areas.

Liubye investitsii, po suti svoei emotsii. Etot segment aktivnosti dvizim zadnost'iu i strahom. Ob'ektivnye fakty, chasten'ko nadumany. Risk ne iskliuchion nigde.

Maybe so, but just about the dispute. Will-I value these products grow in the future?

A eto smotria, kak s nimi rabotat '.

As you know the sad history of financial pyramids, they collapse.

V arte tak ze.

Me as an artist it seems fantasmogoriey. H-P to date, the value of my works $ 8 000 - $ 15 000.
I admit that when !!!!!, literacy and work on my part and from the gallery owners, art dealers and others over many years could raise the price of the order. And that to me is clear and understandable, did not bother and do not worry. But if Mr. Saatchi will display my works, then maybe the price will be space. It is a concern, because something that you create, mixed with emptiness.

Ne soglasen. Vy sozdaiote kartinu, a agent, diler, galerist v kompanii s muzeiami, pressoi, kuratorami, kollektsionerami - sozdaiut tovar.

Eto kliuchevaia mysl '. Tol'ko poniav ee vozmozno osoznanie art rynka.


It's just that agree to accept the proposal to make of her child suddenly Hollywood star. The child is hurt (a child, I mean the creation of the artist).
I shall be very glad if you dispel my "fears"

Mnenie spornoe, mozet povredit, a mozet i net. Eto, kak vy k etomu otnosites'. Al'ternativoi mozet byt '- tiur'ma, zizn' na pomoike i pr.

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Сообщение от LCR

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Renoir, Utrillo, Kisling, Buffet, Mathieu - lists of those who come to mind - have fallen significantly in price.
Prices Marie Laurence were compared with 1980-90. halved (note, I'm not saying that it is as an artist at all worth something) ...

From the very modern, some Italians and Americans (Kia, Schnabel), included in vogue in the 1980's. also sold cheaper than before. I will not mention the names of some Russian artists

That is, it seems that with the development of the art market and the beginning of the investment purchase of works of art such things were completely normal.

No eto ne znachit, chto v 2015 godu oni ne utroiatsia v tsene (conditions apply )

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Сообщение от Tiutchev

I had in mind an art, and not a painting or a book as an object ... Art - as the highest achievement of mankind, as a manifestation of the unique abilities of the individual artist in the reflection of something incomprehensible (you can tell Divine or Omnipresent) ... This art has no value because it is unique and has enormous power to influence people ... But I'm talking about real art, not about the art of selling! Although it is also art in its own way ...

"Opiat 'za ryby groshi" - net edinogo nastoiaschego. Davaite ze razdeliat 'rynok i estetiku. Nu nichego bez etogo ne poluchitsia, krome rasstroistva.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What's that?
Ticket and programm for memory.

Vot i ia ze ob etom. Prodaiutsia emotsii, vpechatleniia - vozduh, eto potrogat 'nel'zia.
Tsena podramnika s holstom i kraskami, i pochasovoi oplatoi raboty, nikak ne prevoditsia v konechnuiu tsenu kartiny.

[ikoku]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ne soglasen. Vy sozdaiote kartinu, a agent, diler, galerist v kompanii s muzeiami, pressoi, kuratorami, kollektsionerami - sozdaiut tovar.

Eto kliuchevaia mysl '. Tol'ko poniav ee vozmozno osoznanie art rynka.

But I'm not against the market and art market, and it is present as is the work in this area, but we're talking about Saatchi and on his talent to take out the corpse of artists making their names are legendary and the prices of their products prohibitively high. I mean only that "supraliminal". If D. Hurst was worth a couple of zeros less, then perhaps confusion and controversy over his extraordinary "talent" does not arise.
And it is these extra zeros I call the void, and not labor people, forming the art market.
Finansofye and art of the pyramid collapse because of the presence in them of these "voids", and that created difficulty is the century. Cyril Syzransky quoted the example of the Egyptian pyramids, they are due to the fact that all the blocks in snugly adjusted to each other, no voids.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от ikoku

AlexanderG A vy by otkazalis' u Saatchi vystavit'sia?

You know, I will not dissemble. I would not have refused.

Spasibo!

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Cyril Syzransky Buyer air? This is where this usual? Weácan

Well, because someone buys the product Daniel Hirst!

Nu togda berite shire, kto-to ze pokupaet kartiny. A esli v operu shodit ', chto u vas ostanetsia posle kontserta, av teatr?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What is air?
This is serious Investment Areas.

I remember, as made out selling off Hurst cafe "Pharmacy", the entire inventory of which (more than 150 subjects) in 2004 was sold at a profit at auction for GBP11, 1 million

Eto ego manager pridumal, ia gde-to vykladyval stat'iu o niom.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

chto u vas ostanetsia posle kontserta, av teatr?

Like what?
Beal and programm for memory.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от ikoku

can offer air and be with confident! Because the buyer is

Buyer air? This is where this usual? 'll Show ...