Exhibition "Thaw and time after. Moscow Artists 1958-2008"

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от fross

It helps to reduce interest follies per message.

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Сообщение от Maroussia

Your coalition should be ashamed of its members!

Why we should be ashamed!
I did not call anyone stupid, nobody was rude. I spoke on the theme of trying to justify [argue] opinion, it is impossible to relate to art and artists as a commodity with a price tag hanging. Thus, even objected to one of the members of our group - Eugene. Or for him you too ashamed? He's the one that said here against? I do not even argue with Fross, I did not even know her views on the miniatures shown - admires Fross or disapproved.

I am sure that it is not necessary to call the artist's great, if it only the prices are great. This is show business, not art. Following the current vogue for conceptualism and relevance will be held, the current American crisis in the arts will be held, as was the same Fevr. The high price tags, perhaps, will be changed the sign "SALE!". I would hope for the best ...

However, if the owner of the subject say that he wants to see me here - I will not fight for space. I'll go and do not slam the door. I am not sorry to leave the computer "battlefield".
Goodbye.

[fross]

Previous version of the message contained useful advice Eugenia familiar with the topics on the forum dedicated to creative non-conformists.
Name Leonid Sokov already mentioned several times in different themes, but look at his work can not often. First, I have seen Stalin was in the collection of Ludwig in the Russian Museum. He had been installed in front of windows with white curtains and the monumentally beautiful. Then Lenin and Dzhakometi of Art4.ru - with gay and delicate irony. A look at the name of soaring bear., And its recognizable theme with Marilyn.

[Posav]

Vladimir, in our turbulent 21 important information and ideas, rather than technical skill. In actualism just have new ideas. Here you can do without a beautiful stroke and TP. That is valued in classical painting. Eden now more expensive than the Arts. You evaluate that work on the criteria of classical painting, but it is not a classical painting. The first work in general collage.

P.S. Maroussia! In our coalition is not forbidden dissent, in your own tail can be seen as walking one behind another, and put down thank you.

[fross]

Сообщение от Posav

Vladimir, in our turbulent 21 important information and ideas, rather than technical skill. In actualism just have new ideas. Here you can do without a beautiful stroke and TP. That is valued in classical painting. Eden now more expensive than the Arts. You evaluate that work on the criteria of classical painting, but it is not a classical painting. The first work in general collage.

In art, with an equal level of technical skill, and really need more ideas. Already in the 20 century, a beautiful stroke was not enough.
PSNedavno in the mysteries of abstraction were, so there beautiful strokes, and on them you can easily find authors.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Ideas feeble happened.

Look at the posters, which I just posted on the topic "Present-parody.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...095#post561095

No worse than the posters Bulatov - from my point of view. Ideas clearly stronger than that of artists who paint and can not, and can not think properly. I'm not talking about the fact that posters Bulatov were almost safe in a time when nobody could have predicted the decline of the Soviet era. A less unknown artists-poster artist allowed themselves much more rapidly respond to authority, not being confident in their safety.

I agree that the sculpture of juices - a masterpiece. If you visit the "experimental" Hall GTG - compared to other installations, he looks really wonderful.

PS

I can not help it. I do not like, and Bulatov, Kabakov, Kulik and others unknown to me Conceptual. What sort of ideas - in any advertising agency better idea! What should I do? Factitiously admire, repeating the opinions of "guru"?

[fross]

So you a message about Eugene? He often expresses his attitude to creativity in superlatives. Perhaps it affects the eastern tradition. Here are September 1-2, will celebrate the 2200 anniversary of his native city - Tashkent. What his congratulations. But at the same time I want to ask at the main heroine of the novel by Dina Rubina "On the sunny side of the street" artist Faith Shchahlova a prototype? Very interesting. The city is described wonderfully, and some characters are obviously the real heroes, eg Volkov.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

fross, and Yuri Dombrowski again immortalized the name of the artist Sergei Ivanovich Kalmykov, imprinting it in his famous novel "The Faculty of unnecessary things." They act in Alma-Ata is, incidentally.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от fross

And at the same time I want to ask at the main heroine of the novel by Dina Rubina "On the sunny side of the street" artist Faith Shchahlova a prototype? Very interesting. The city is described wonderfully, and some characters are obviously the real heroes, eg Volkov.

fross, Dina Ilinichna now confirmed the words intervyu.

Open the secret: who is the prototype of the artist of the Faith "On the sunny side of the street"? - On my site on the Internet often get letters with the question, where you can see the pictures of Faith Shchahlova? And I began to think, I disappoint people, or continue to mystify further. My answer is both. Among my acquaintances there are some brilliant Russian artists, who flourished in the West, having found fame and fortune. But specifically Vera Sheglova - a fictitious character.

Added, however, that when writing this novel "when I thought about the pictures before my
   eyes were paintings rather Nesterova, only, so to speak,
   Eastern connotation. A little bit of that, sensitive to another, and
   pictures of her own husband made one different thoughts ".
Dina Rubina's husband, artist Boris Karafelov.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=42605

By the way, the news!
Released a new novel by Dina Rubina "White Dove of Córdoba": "was released recently, my new novel," White
   Cordoba dove "- the brilliant poddelschike paintings. If you fall into
   hands, read. There is a lot of curious details of life
   art-business. "
Very interesting.
Dina Rubina
White dove Cordova
Publisher: Eksmo, 2009
Hardcover, 544 pages
ISBN 978-5-699-37343-7
Circulation: 80,000 copies.
(If you recall the book by Dina Rubina on Brzhezitskoy Acme Davidovna should be very interested in this new novel!)

[Allena]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

White
dove Cordoba "

Very interesting book! Interest reading! Very touching, after all our forumskih conversations and publications to see the word "provenance", written in italics.

Serious do recommend not to wait, but the book is really good. And with all the ease of the question there raised a very deep: who he was, a brilliant poddelschik paintings - the great master, or the great rascal, or these two things compatible?

[fross]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

By the way, the news!
Released a new novel by Dina Rubina "White Dove of Córdoba": "was released recently, my new novel," White
  Cordoba dove "- the brilliant poddelschike paintings. If you fall into
  hands, read. There is a lot of curious details of life
  art-business. "
Very interesting.

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