How to unleash the artist

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Сообщение от Turquoise

  As a result of 1000 artists who have left 1.2 untwisted.
  Ie for the artist, as I thought it seams.

 
Who left the artists who have talent, personality, or call it what you like, in Europe and America have far more chances. As it is not lost, and even here we can see - Kabakov, Tselkov, Grigory Bruskin, Anton Arkhipov.
A undistinctive and below are heavy and hopeless struggle.

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Сообщение от Turquoise

What kind of insult, for God's sake!
  These 2 questions I asked for a further 2 forums. Different words, but the meaning of a response. Even the initial investment in the promotion does not imply a further, more expensive merchantability works by the artist. In addition to still have the skill and luck, originality and style of writing, which is in demand right now and it is in the wrong place, a good dealer, and many, etc. etc. etc.
  As a result of 1000 artists who have left 1.2 untwisted.
  Ie for the artist, as I thought it seams.

Сообщение от Turquoise

As a result of 1000 artists who have left 1.2 untwisted.

If the word "roll", you understand the material security, ie profit from the fruits of their labor at least 40-50000 thousand euros per year, then such artists originating from the former Soviet Union, Europe is 0.2%and about 10%. In any case, in France, where it is so, and this country is the most difficult in the professional career of the artist from the former empire. In Germany, where conditions for izozarabotkov more gentle countrymen than in France and the UK less, but there is "our" honored to portray the queen and as a result, mentioned as a criterion, the house, first in Old English and then at the French coast, which befits a true gentlemen vacations.
It is interesting to note that one of the Russian artists in France, described himself in a radio interview "as may be most successful in the material sense French artist. At the same time (perhaps to his credit), he did not say about art or about art, but only about the profession. Who's that attended. One - to bake bread, the other - to put the wall, the third write still lifes and landscapes. This suggests that the foundations of craft, in other words what earn the bread, gave the Soviet Union is not bad.

For reference. In New York, where artists more than in the entire former USSR Union of Artists, those who live with the results of their work 3%, France - 5%.

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Сообщение от LCR

I have these artists (Leipzig School) pretty soon - simply because they are engaged in painting, writing inks on canvas

Fully in agreement about the paints and canvases. I suspect that they had been taught in Leipzig Hoch Schule.

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Сообщение от netserg

who left the artists who have talent, personality, or call it what you like, in Europe and America have far more chances.

Brilliant.

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Kstati, kak tol'ko art, kartina poiavliaetsia na rynke, ona stanovitsia tovarom. U vseh tovarno-deneznyh otnoshenii odna shema. Mozno iulit 'i nazyvat' po-raznomu, chto suti ne meniaet.

I agree with you, and in general it is high time to consider the market as the new reality of being, and not something on the other side thereof. It's not very nice, especially for artists, but it must be taken and then the market will not be as terrible as not afraid of bad weather. Interestingly, the art market in Australia is thriving, or just there?

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Сообщение от Vladimir

Why? As a "test Dali, the artist should be able to draw a horse? I'm here, for example, LinkBacks sincerely, if Hirst knows how to draw a horse. Although almost sure can. And not be able - to buy the carcass and deceiving marker I, for instance, recently tried to handle the statement write (by hand) - tortured, unlearned. That's not to say that I do not know how to write?

Hearst certainly knows how to draw, but the problem in another, far more complex - namely, to break out beyond the old skills, then get something new. This is the essence, and to spend time on something you no longer need hardly reasonable.

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Сообщение от iosif

This third reason can call (justifying the greedy miser-dealer): who ventured, and drinking champagne. The artist is not at risk - still the promoting of his name, not a dealer. For the artist, therefore, can not be a commercial failure.

If the dealer will be able to not consider the well-known artist (untwist) the star, it's brilliant dealer. But where he can see the great unknown? They are not known, they nowhere in the near field there. That and you have to untwist, that arm will fall. Do not you?

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Сообщение от Adamovich

I'm here, for example, recently tried to handle the statement write (by hand) - tortured, unlearned. That's not to say that I do not know how to write

strange comparison, application and write.

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Privit ', ka vy skazali, vsenarodnuiu liubov' raskrutkoi mozno. Po nastoiaschemu imenno vsenarodnaia liubov 'i dostigaetsia raskrutkoi, i ne vazno chego, iskusstva, muzyki ili politicheskogo deiiatelia.

On some people's love, you say? The people in Russia, even the Internet does not, looks, at best, only a TV, and then show only untwisted. People may be, and I heard that there is a pier Museum - Tretyakov Gallery, on this and break off all his interests, if you can call it interest. Ah, yes, even he had heard, certainly, of Shilov. That's all. There is not a people's love of art, because art is also "a lot" of knowledge, etc.

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Сообщение от DOS

China rushes to the world leaders and as a consequence, to take the initiative in various fields - are they for this energy (I do not mean "shustrost" and the spiritual, national energy). Her (energy), they reflect on canvas (WPI for banality).

Correct, it would wish, and Russia.

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And not be able - to buy the carcass and deceiving marker I, for instance, recently tried to handle the statement write (by hand) - tortured, unlearned. That's not to say that I do not know how to write?
And what did it mean? If you yourself have written that have forgotten how to ... This is just, and says that if you do not practice the skills, very soon if you can not unlearn, what is called "losing hand. Or vice versa, for example, if the move from life to the letter of photos, then go back to nature will be oh how difficult.

Сообщение от Adamovich

Do not you?

I do not think so. Here everything depends on what to call the great unknown ... And what kind of interest do everything that comes their way. It's like an actor removed all indiscriminately films, where invited. Here his talent (even if it is), it is impossible to demonstrate.

Сообщение от Adamovich

What kind of people's love, you say? The people in Russia, even the Internet does not, looks, at best, only a TV, and then show only untwisted. People may be, and I heard that there is a pier Museum - Tretyakov Gallery, on this and break off all his interests, if you can call it interest. Ah, yes, even he had heard, certainly, of Shilov. That's all. There is not a people's love of art, because art is also "a lot" of knowledge, etc.

I think. All the same, that people are much more talented than you think of him .. Yes, and heaps of knowledge is not measured ...

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Сообщение от Buscador

I think. All the same, that people are much more talented than you think of him .. Yes, and heaps of knowledge is not measured ...

  The people of something we have talent, there is no dispute. Only the good of it no, because for all his talent live very badly.

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Сообщение от Meister

I think that this phrase defines the future of the market of contemporary art, and no funds will not help)) or vice versa would help - this worked, come along for the next.

Agree listed Maxim's "How to unleash the artist, this is just a hoax, the Standard Rules, which, at first glance, it is absolutely true, and indeed, this is a big trap for the glass and on the stand, as a concept, or installation, which can not be touched because it is terrible - they bite the price, and secondly, and probably not - prevent the glass. You can, of course, try to break the forehead glass, but will hurt, and hurt a person.
The second hoax - a bat phrase: "You can unleash any artist, unfortunately - not. When people say, you do not want to unleash the artist and curator, or art direction, or a large group of artists. But the group no matter who is unwound in glamorous vocal ensemble - all the same, what color pants to highlight and who put them on, if only a good-looking, it all depends on the taste of the producer.
All of these myths (oh, how much was right Michael Lifshitz in his famous article "Why do not Modernist?", "The Crisis of Ugliness") need only one, as much as possible to increase the audience for their existing foreign sharks artbiznesa who rule ball and vigilantly monitor the implementation of the same set of rules, and God forbid you break them, just find yourself a pariah. But be an outcast - is an achievement, terribly different, namely, to pass face control, here is a great politician, and a huge industry of art. And again before the eyes of the eternal question of Russia - "What? And again, as with Pushkin: "And the distance free of the novel //I through the magic crystal //not yet clearly distinguished.
Lord investors and collectors, but the strain brains! You can not indefinitely squander national treasure. After all, there should be a figure that can drag for a whole mob of Russia's art, there are also examples in the world - China, India, and their artists much more than in Russia.

A few warm words I would like to tell Russia to collectors, gallery owners and investors - not just their misfortune that they are captives of mystification of the world artrynka because, except those myths, and often selfless love for the art they have nothing. In Russia, not even a bloodthirsty shark artrynka, all huddle under the heel of Sotheby's and Christie `s. For some, a favorite of fortune, there is even a warm and cozy, and what to do to others, except as an illusion? Acquire, at your own risk, and an unknown Russian artist, or on the cheap you liked the picture and sit on them as "chickens for eggs, waiting, dreaming, until one hatched chick of the Firebird, but not broiler chicken. And God help them.
But God - a god, and you, the powerful, the government, MPs, the central bank, state monopolies, help the same kind to the culture, support the laws of the benefits, create a supportive environment. And then, suddenly, in fact, chick embryonic the Firebird, but will have nowhere to do with it, here and give it to poultry Lisowski (formerly the famous producer) and let the Firebird on the leg in the consumer goods, and God forbid, hatched Phoenix Bird that then ...?
Favorite Russia, create the investors at least some conditions for their active existence. It's like in football, what good would be on football teams, if there would be nationwide championship in football and stadiums that can hold matches - answer: no. So with investors ... After this happens, wasted national asset, because a poor culture of Russia - is a failure of Russian business, and the state. And do not be afraid that the gush of the river of money laundering, what sort of river, well, may be stunted brook of cents, and that is unlikely. But, what scope for artbinesa!