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Старый 13.05.2009, 23:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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Ignat,
I think it will help, and tell all prices.
And. I think that the expertise now need to give yourself, and not through the gallery owners.
Thank you very much, Sergey.
The only wanted to clarify, why not through the gallery owners? I thought so correctly, they are also interested in selling?

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Ignat, for flood sorry, come out of the topic, their answers can I remove.
And.
I have this message too, will remove later,
Damn. I always thought that more or less speak speech. But do not stop. I even now I do not understand any of your previous posts, nor the meaning of this last phrase - you continue Stebaev? In my opinion, somewhat clumsily to mockery. For nesteba mysteriously. Questions have been something simple.

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but I will tell you, nobody pottverdit S. authorship of your pictures. In St. Petersburg, and asked why Moscow did not have to do? And all ...
Opinions are divided ...
Reframe the question: a crucial role in the attribution of plays technical espertiza (if any exist in the appropriate form) or opinions of experts?
And as far as the opinion of leading experts determines the judgments others?

If the attribution tightly paired with the opinion of two or three people, though very competent, but not with objective data, bad business - for market participants, primarily.



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Старый 14.05.2009, 00:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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OK, you say, wring some way the paper. And who you buy it? There would be, for example, Petrov, and he put all his reasons, doubts and arguments. So? Nothing ... Everyone will know of the existence of this painting with a long train of stories and fables, but will buy it?
If you look closely at the first post, I think, is obvious: I do not want to grind. I want clarity. If the expert rejects the authenticity, there are reasons, though he described them. So no, it was said, in essence: a fake, because fake. And what to think?
As for the plume - yes.
Again, I formulated the questions that might be useful for the profane. Once articulate. Maybe you (or someone else from the experts) do not find it difficult to answer:
- Are there any hardware expertise to enable impact on expert opinion?
- Does the opinion of leading experts, that the validity of the proposal is equal to zero?
- Able to efficiently operate the market (sorry, just been interested in the abstract), in which the validity of a commodity is determined by eye by two=three men, even a very respected?

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I you all simply and clearly explained. And that you had carefully read my answers, and no joke ...
But this is your business, how to perceive my words. I was serious. "Sloppy"? Maybe not for me to judge, but I wrote to you as is. Then, remember my words and understand what I told you the entire script.
I do not to you, and to ensure that you and another tovarisch associated me with the author of Topeka, to which I referred ... devil ... OK, let's forget.
You explained and I understood. And thank you, and sorry if that is not so.



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Старый 14.05.2009, 01:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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"Author Topeka" is known. It is an open forum participant before he showed his Christie's auction lots. He would not have a nickname other questions to ask.
Since you have removed their posts, I can not (and do not desire) quoting your cryptic remarks.

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Why does he send you my kitchen will rasskryvat.
I understand his line of reasoning, and can you tell them. But I will not, I and so you almost everything.
On "during the argument" does not tell. Ease lie, removing the posts.
But experts do not tell "kitchen" clients, and speaking - this is so, because I said so "- it is something so very proud, feudal. You now come to me with a legal matter, but I will say: "You do not win a process of ever" - and shut up. Is not it strange, no?

Actually, a funny situation. You have removed their posts, but Flooding continue. That you are cyclical, or what? Spamming and clear, again Flooding ...

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What? Yes, the time of creating the painting of technical and technological research possible. And what it gives?
In this case - at least that it is not fake 30's, experts say.
A simple question: in addition to the time of creation, can not find anything?

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I do not know what it is ... "Validity" ... No, I do not know.
Suitability, but with slightly dilated connotations, sorry, semantic additions. By the way, if the notion of "disability" (the root of a) unfamiliar, you can just look at the dictionary. There are dictionaries of modern Russian language, maybe you heard?

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Do not answer. So globally, "the market"-I do not think, I mean something simple ...
Vain.
Countries to participate in that, what does not understand. (Anticipating your next philological exercise, I will note that if you as=either not minded, and meaning in it can not).

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The health
Also thank the three hours' flood. And for that I drew. Teenage days was not involved in such a desultory conversation. Thank you.



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Старый 14.05.2009, 06:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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- whether the market operate efficiently (sorry, just been interested in the abstract), in which the validity of a commodity is determined by eye by two = three men, even a very respected?
Ignat, you just caught the essence of the problem of Russia's art market.



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: "The experts were wrong Tretyakov"
I was once an old antique dealer said: "Do you want to sell now - go for expertise in the Tretyakov Gallery, want to buy - go to Grabar!"



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Thank you all very much for the advice and information.

Also, sorry if offended anyone, certain posts (from the harvested authors), I just do not understand: shy:.



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Старый 30.05.2009, 15:08 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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Thank you very much, Sergey.
The only wanted to clarify, why not through the gallery owners? I thought so correctly, they are also interested in selling?
Yes, Serge, do not explain it? I also thought that seems to gallery owners interested in selling, but after a single case, like the description topikstarterom, crept into doubt. Thank you!



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