Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

[Veronic]

I will not go round piling words interlocutors. I can not do and do not want. For me, high art is here ....
You can go through the list.

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Сообщение от Nedogonov

You have to post themselves in any hurry to express their opinions. Usually this is very rude, intemperate.

Sorry, not anymore ... : shy:
By the way, wanted to ask.
This you-Orthodox gonfalonier, former secretary of the Komsomol committee, or I have something mixed up?
Someone here was a ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I supported and supports the freedom of creativity.

That is correct. Only creativity can do everything and be an artist - items ...

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Сообщение от Veronic

I will not go round piling words interlocutors. I can not do and do not want. For me, this is high art here ....

Now clear. Only where there Chichkan (junior)?

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Buscador

That is correct. Only tvorchistvom can do everything and be an artist - a unit ...

The artist is the one who knows how to draw, as a doctor can treat, the engineer to design, build construction.
During the discussion it became clear that the modern artist to paint does not necessarily know how.
Each artist in the concept means different things.

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Сообщение от Veronic

In the course of discussion it became clear that the modern artist to paint not necessarily know how.
Everyone in the concept of the artist puts a different meaning.

Apparently, it turned out for you. If the artist does not necessarily know how to draw (good), kompanovat and work with color, then the doctor (whom gathered here have a lot) do not necessarily know the anatomy, and in general medicine ... And anyway, why should know something - just say, you know ...

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Buscador

Apparently, it turned out for you. If the artist does not necessarily know how to draw (good), kompanovat and work with color, then the doctor (whom gathered here have a lot) do not necessarily know the anatomy, and in general medicine ... And anyway, why should know something - just say that you know ...

Surgeon-conceptualist. I wonder who would have him go to the party?

Abstract medicine ....

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Veronic

How can you express your thoughts against conceptual art, if it is literally filled the minds and space museums and private collections.
And if there are people who do not like it? Or should all the same to love him, even if the mind and the soul opposes? As they say, can abide together with any?
In conclusion, I want to show the pictures, which are also in the opinion of critics are works of art. Do you want us to be visited by a deep inner feelings at the sight of this?
Or else .... show these pictures to your children, let them get used to the small-to-high.
Photos taken from the Archive of Elijah Chichkan

Veronic, let's order.
1. Conceptual art - a very specific direction, which by Hirst and Chichkanov is no longer involved with, than to Arthur Braginsky.

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Conceptual art deals with the definition of art and nothing else.
It is indifferent to sensory characteristics of the image and no specifics he was not interested by definition. Most likely, you have not seen a single work of conceptual artist.
However, conceptual art has had a great influence on many of the practices of contemporary art, from here to a place and not to the point (usually irrelevant) tended "conceptual".
And another thing: do not mix conceptualism and the presence of the artist, or a specific project concept, ie of a central idea.
In general, Veronic, is not so bad conceptualism, as he is painted.
 
2. "Or should all the same to love him, even if the mind and the soul opposes?"
At the exhibition of contemporary art for the ears do not pull: interesting - go there, not interested - do not go.

3. "pictures, which are also the opinion of critics are works of art".
One of the principles of the functioning of modern art: any object placed in gallery exhibit or page art magazine, automatically gets the status of works of art. Critics only certify this fact.

4. "Do you want us to be visited by a deep inner feelings at the sight of this?"
Actual Art b.ch. not designed to any inner life.
As for me, Chernukha-porn does not appeal to me in any form, including in the exhibition halls. All "epatage" variations in the galleries on this topic give naphthalene and pass as club events for the nouveaux riches, or simply calculated on the documentation.
Chichkan, in my opinion, weak and boring artist. If you want to know that he will show at the Biennale - go to the website Art Center Pinchuk. Everything is quite decently.
Regarding Hirst I have repeatedly spoken out.
 
5. ".... show these pictures to your children, let them get used to the small-to-high "
Modern teenagers see things where pohlesche that Chichkan shows. And at the exhibition, most of them rarely looks.
My daughter brought up in the traditions of classical art, but learned to appreciate a good painting, regardless of who its author - socialist realists or avant-garde. But the exhibition of artists like Chichkan it almost did not attend - post it, as most of its peers, it is not interesting. At Hearst's moves, but without enthusiasm, only to be informed.

Сообщение от Veronic

Surgeon-conceptualist. I wonder who would have him go to the reception?

They go to the same psychics and psychoanalysts.
There are many kinds of art, and not all of them require years of training polished art drawing. In particular, children's art, primitive art, art brut ...
Well, more modern types, each with their tasks. Art in a more general sense - is the realm of search, versatile modeling environment. Technical skills offer tremendous advantages of a modern artist, but this is not the only, and not always the decisive factor in a number of artistic trends.

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Сообщение от Art-lover

There are many kinds of art, and not all of them require years of training polished art drawing. In particular, children's art, primitive art, art brut ...
Well, more modern types, each with their tasks. Art in a more general sense - is the realm of search, versatile modeling environment. Technical skills offer tremendous advantages of a modern artist, but this is not the only, and not always the decisive factor in a number of artistic trends.

Indeed - many kinds of art: the art of dance - the dancer, the art of singing - the singer, the art of theater - an actor, etc. And everywhere you must have a profession. But the talent - it innate, but also requires a permanent trainings ... And no children's art, and there are children's creativity.
Grigory Soroka was a talented boy and loved to draw. But his drawings lacked precision (proportion not been met, missed opportunities and so on). The boy is lucky he met AG Venetsianov, who gave him everything, what is lacking his talent .. Today the whole world knows GV Soroka (1823-1864).

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Сообщение от Art-lover

1. Conceptual art - a very specific direction, which by Hirst and Chichkanov is no longer involved with, than to Arthur Braginsky.

And what do you think the so-called conceptual art?

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

And what do you think the so-called conceptual art?

This is the answer Art-lover Yes. Not enough, add ... : D

Сообщение от Art-lover

Conceptual art deals with the definition of art and nothing else.

[Yaya]

I can not deny myself to not offer you an interview with the notorious Chichkan, which is about six months ago did my old friend. ask:
The artist Ilya Chichkan fame much more than money, but the fate did not complain.
Best if it is modern Ukrainian artist - art historians to decide. But the fact that he represents domestic kontemporari art - a fact.
http://kontrakty.ua/content/view/6502/39/