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|  29.12.2014, 19:00 | Язык оригинала: Русский #11 | 
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			Tati, Hello. I see that You need help, so I decided not to be silent.  You presented a discussion of two works of Vladimir Vasilyevich Lebedev. Such experiments he did in the first half - the middle of the 20-ies. Characterized by the fact that the paintings were actually done mixed media and more or less the entire series was manufactured in the same sizes. That is, Your drawings should be made with the use of oil pastels and stencils of different configurations with subsequent painting. Size (in most cases) such work ranges from 24.5 x 34 cm to 26 x 36,5 see Very often (as noted in item no. 2), on the back of these pictures you can see the old leaves with topographical Atlas of the world, 1909, old prints and different designs, torn from old books on art and architectural and engineering drawings in German with Russian buildings, various technical units and the like. It is possible that in Your case Lebedev managed to find a clean sheet of paper and create what You show here. One of the sources of the data acquisition Age of drawings was Leningrad late 80 X. There was a very old man, previously head of one of the publishers of Leningrad. He periodically gave the whole series paper drawings and usuary (stencils) Lebedev at a local used bookstore. The fact that Your drawings were bought together with other drawings Lebedev should add You confidence that they are performed not only by the Russian avant-garde, and Vladimir Lebedev. By the way, he did not sign. Hope this information gave You the answer to Your question. | 
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|  29.12.2014, 21:31 | Язык оригинала: Русский #12 | 
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			[QUOTE=Тати;3326671]But the work was acquired together with the drawings Lebedev and Tatlin 20-30x, that indirectly suggests that it's our hudozhnik@ Note that this indirect argument only works if the authorship of the remaining drawings (Lebedev and Tatlin) confirmed a serious examination. Otherwise, this argument one unknown with another unknown. P. S. I from Italy such graphics Tatlin was offered - it's better not to remember... 
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|  29.12.2014, 22:07 | Язык оригинала: Русский #13 | |
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			How strange it sounds, but it turns out that the work of Lebedev were sold along with the work of Lebedev  Цитата: 
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|  30.12.2014, 04:19 | Язык оригинала: Русский #14 | 
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			redbor, at Your request, for a quick example.
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|  30.12.2014, 05:02 | Язык оригинала: Русский #15 | |
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			Unlike a Century creativity Lebedev 20-ies, which, incidentally, is well known and studied about Lebedev began to write it in the 20's, at the same time he exhibited. Yes and all of his cubist experimental work 20-ies known. Now, the article is his friend N. Punina Value of cubism in art Century Lebedev" in "V. Lebedev. Catalogue of works 1920-1928". L.: Ed. The state Russian Museum, 1928. And it is absolutely fantastic it sounds: Цитата: 
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|  30.12.2014, 05:16 | Язык оригинала: Русский #16 | 
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			[QUOTE="Jane Doe;3327071"]it is possible that in Your case Lebedev managed to find a clean sheet of paper and create something that You are here pokazyvaet@ Century Lebedev worked in the 20's as a book designer, and in 1924, he was head of the art edition of the children's Department of the state publishing house. I'll have his paper was not? Why does the mind need to use "old leaves with topographical Atlas of the world, 1909, old prints and different designs, torn from old books on art and architectural and engineering drawings in German with Russian buildings, various technical units"? For books and posters paper was, and for the artist, over these books and posters working clean sheets was not found? | 
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|  30.12.2014, 05:44 | Язык оригинала: Русский #17 | 
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			Here is his graphic cycle, known as "Laundress" (actually depicts Gladilina), on which the artist worked for five years (1920-1925). Note the signature and date.
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|  30.12.2014, 05:52 | Язык оригинала: Русский #18 | 
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			In 1922 Lebedev made a series of twenty-three drawings in ink, gouache, and lead pencil, United by a common theme and the name "Street revolution". Later, the artist gave her a new, more accurate name: Panel revolution".  The drawings, with unknown Lebedev satirical force characteristics, create images of urban scum, street girls and their cronies, deserters in the marine cap and exaggerated wide flared trousers document the riffraff that at the beginning of the NEP loitering without work at the St. Petersburg sidewalks, and to some extent determined then the image of a city street. According to contemporaries, Lebedev gave her "immortal graphic expression. (N. Punin. Vladimir Lebedev. - Leningrad, 1928. - C. 14.). | 
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|  30.12.2014, 13:23 | Язык оригинала: Русский #19 | 
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			Thank you all for the answers. Big thanks to Jane Doe. Your response has put everything in its place. The collection is truly from St. Petersburg. Expertise is foreign. In the collection of numerous illustrations Lebedev. But several works, in particular the ones I put in the subject, were attributed, sorry, Malevich... Now I understand that it all works Lebedev. And "Tatlin", it seems, too. By the way, really almost all work performed on the maps. To do the assessment in Russia. Последний раз редактировалось Тати; 30.12.2014 в 14:18. | 
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|  30.12.2014, 13:39 | Язык оригинала: Русский #20 | 
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			Jane Doe, thanks for the pictures.  I'm sorry, but that's exactly what the author of the Century Lebedev? | 
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