How can cost picture Zichy

[LCR]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Of course, the big size. The same, of philistine, on the pole?

It's awful hard to explain
This is where a round or whatever-then-sided drum is connected to the "ceiling", there is a 4-field form such triangular "sails" (know what I mean? "The more so because I myself am not sure that I understand. Now try to find some intelligible drawing).

She found two, hang out!

[Кирилл Сызранский]

LCR, these "pillars" and meant. At the level of its growth-they are "pillars", vveh do not look, though still Krylov grandfather taught me: "When would be able to lift up you mug, /You should have seen it ...": D

[Tana]

LCR reputation, rather thanked 4000 times! I think this record? ))

[LCR]

Сообщение от Tana

LCR reputation, rather thanked 4000 times! I think this record? ))

Record-record, so I Gurush - and you can simply pear

For some reason remembered the children's riddle: "hangs a pear, you can not eat" (answer: Aunt Pear hanged ")

[Кирилл Сызранский]

LCR, the riddle is not funny: eek:, but "Gurush"-nothing.
I've received from Antipas "guru-kangaroo ... : D

[katerina]

Thank you to all forum participants for their attention to this subject. That ideas should exist for three more pictures I know, but whether they are in nature - is the question. I contact with one guide who conducts tours Budapest. In Matthias Church in Budapest, Fortress, there is a chapel where the leaf altar decorated with pictures Zichy, but they are secular, as a complement to the altar, depicting various moments of the first heir to the Hungarian king. The museum in the town hall in Kometade Shomot, pictures of the church plan (icons) no. This guide, turned to art historians in Hungary, but they refused on the piece of picture that any talk, answer: "The visit of the picture to us, then let's talk. Have made the request of the State Tretyakov Gallery and Grabar in Budapest, but no answer. Has the Gatchina Palace, the paintings of such a plan is not there. In GMZ "Tsarskoe Selo", mostly watercolors, and portraits there. Therefore, the question, and Zichy it?
Please tell me whether these pictures are taken from Russia and has a value for the sale of its restoration?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от katerina

Did they take such pictures from the RF

On examination, yes. Must make a temporary export.

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Сообщение от katerina

Does it matter for the restoration of its sale?

If you want to sell, then I would advise you to sell without restoration.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

At the king's gate, they are portrayed.
Typically, the gates are depicted the four evangelists and the Annunciation, as a symbol of the fact that the gates of Paradise are open again for people.

The picture with the king's gate. Tablet.

Сообщение от K-Maler

It seems that the Catholic image.

Image Orthodox.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от LCR

Both of you, gentlemen, very clever and quite right: and there, and there evangelists are depicted (but sails now generally do not hang there made fresco or mosaic)

On the sail does not hang, of course, but, for example, if the church buildings, it might be a clearance in the narrow space in the corners. But I want to add that the letter "M" written by the artist himself, it is beautifully written and it means "Matthew." This means that it is possible to find the other three with the corresponding letters and also work Zichy. We must find out how to search. Ring up museums, where there Zichy and remember how and when and prikakih circumstances, she came into your family. Maybe this is a church next to where your ancestors lived ... Try it. Find art critic, who is studying or this artist, or this region ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

The same, of philistine, on the pole?

No, not at the pole. Typically, these "pillars" are very powerful and square in plan, as they keep the dome, they are called pylons. On these pylons, their 4 rely four arches on which rests the dome. Space in the corners in this case and it is called a triangular sail (for similarity with the ship). Here in this space is always portray evangelicals. Circles and ovals are frequent in Baroque ornamentation, it can also serve as a guide. Of course, all this may be in the design of the altar.

[katerina]

Сообщение от K-Maler

This means that it is possible to find the other three with the corresponding letters and also work Zichy. We must find out how to search. Ring up museums, where there Zichy and remember how and when and prikakih circumstances, she came into your family. Maybe this is a church next to where your ancestors lived ... Try it. Find art critic, who is studying or this artist, or this region ...

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The fact is that unfortunately, my grandmother, whose mother left her a different antiques, no longer exists. But what I know: great-grandmother's name was Levin and her husband were the owners of the bank in Rostov, as they were in Gelendzhik, I do not know, but there was an estate (there are photos, there is now a holiday home then) and from there they are all that could and removed. Before I came not so much. Gelendzhik is nothing about Ziche I have not. But about a watch that just stayed with the times, I have some - that learned. They have an inscription - pour P. Oster Rostow s /le don ". P. Oster, jeweler and owner of the trading house in Rostov, maybe this picture is there, but more than I about this jeweler did not find anything. No one knows whether there is a Rostov museum or something, where to go? "And the more I have that - it lacks imagination. In Moscow, art by Zichy think not. And the painting, I realized how limited.