How can cost picture Zichy

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Сообщение от K-Maler

Typically, the four evangelists are depicted on top of" Sail "

At the king's gate, they are portrayed.
Typically, the gates are depicted the four evangelists and the Annunciation, as a symbol of the fact that the gates of Paradise are open again for people.

[LCR]

Сообщение от K-Maler

Typically, the four evangelists are depicted on top of "Sail" (the so-called Haute arches central) or above the main altar part.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

At the king's gate, they are portrayed.
Typically, the gates are depicted the four evangelists and the Annunciation, as a symbol of the fact that the gates of Paradise are again open to the people.

Both of you, gentlemen, very clever and quite right: and there, and there evangelists are depicted (but sails now not really hang there made frescoes or mosaics)

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Сообщение от LCR

but the sails now generally do not hang there made fresco or mosaic

Of course, the big size. The same, of philistine, on the pole?

[LCR]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Of course, the big size. The same, of philistine, on the pole?

It's awful hard to explain
This is where a round or whatever-then-sided drum is connected to the "ceiling", there is a 4-field form such triangular "sails" (know what I mean? "The more so because I myself am not sure that I understand. Now try to find some intelligible drawing).

She found two, hang out!

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LCR, these "pillars" and meant. At the level of its growth-they are "pillars", vveh do not look, though still Krylov grandfather taught me: "When would be able to lift up you mug, /You should have seen it ...": D

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от LCR

Both of you, gentlemen, very clever and quite right: and there, and there evangelists are depicted (but sails now generally do not hang there made fresco or mosaic)

On the sail does not hang, of course, but, for example, if the church buildings, it might be a clearance in the narrow space in the corners. But I want to add that the letter "M" written by the artist himself, it is beautifully written and it means "Matthew." This means that it is possible to find the other three with the corresponding letters and also work Zichy. We must find out how to search. Ring up museums, where there Zichy and remember how and when and prikakih circumstances, she came into your family. Maybe this is a church next to where your ancestors lived ... Try it. Find art critic, who is studying or this artist, or this region ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

The same, of philistine, on the pole?

No, not at the pole. Typically, these "pillars" are very powerful and square in plan, as they keep the dome, they are called pylons. On these pylons, their 4 rely four arches on which rests the dome. Space in the corners in this case and it is called a triangular sail (for similarity with the ship). Here in this space is always portray evangelicals. Circles and ovals are frequent in Baroque ornamentation, it can also serve as a guide. Of course, all this may be in the design of the altar.

[katerina]

Сообщение от K-Maler

This means that it is possible to find the other three with the corresponding letters and also work Zichy. We must find out how to search. Ring up museums, where there Zichy and remember how and when and prikakih circumstances, she came into your family. Maybe this is a church next to where your ancestors lived ... Try it. Find art critic, who is studying or this artist, or this region ...

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The fact is that unfortunately, my grandmother, whose mother left her a different antiques, no longer exists. But what I know: great-grandmother's name was Levin and her husband were the owners of the bank in Rostov, as they were in Gelendzhik, I do not know, but there was an estate (there are photos, there is now a holiday home then) and from there they are all that could and removed. Before I came not so much. Gelendzhik is nothing about Ziche I have not. But about a watch that just stayed with the times, I have some - that learned. They have an inscription - pour P. Oster Rostow s /le don ". P. Oster, jeweler and owner of the trading house in Rostov, maybe this picture is there, but more than I about this jeweler did not find anything. No one knows whether there is a Rostov museum or something, where to go? "And the more I have that - it lacks imagination. In Moscow, art by Zichy think not. And the painting, I realized how limited.

[Serg987]

Are there any in the history of information about the collector Chikunova?

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I have this name-Chikunov-never met.
Neither of the owners prezhdnih, or even more so in the collectors of those times.
But watching St. Petersburg and Moscow.
Topic author gave a landmark, southern Russia, Rostov, Gelendzhik ...
Maybe the name was there as something known. Something similar can remember, but memory does not trust. Only sources, information ...

[katerina]

She found all the museums in Rostov, but the site is only in the museums of local lore, the rest hardly even find it. How can I contact them? On the phone they are unlikely that you will be able to tell me. With our museums, I was connected via 'Net, but as it can officially apply to a private person?