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Старый 29.05.2013, 20:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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IV, A huge thank you acquainted with the work of this remarkable artist! Where monograph on Mary Borisovne? If posodeystvuete, I will be very grateful!

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Старый 29.05.2013, 21:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Understandable desire to tie it to the Russian avant-garde - and the cart can also become attached to the money under an expensive Russian avant-garde.

But it is a clear correspondence-Impressionists, even signatures can be put.

And no Russian avant-garde.



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Старый 29.05.2013, 23:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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's desire to tie it to the Russian avant-garde - and the cart can also become attached to the money under an expensive Russian avant-garde.
But it is a clear correspondence-Impressionists, even signatures can be put.
And no Russian avant-garde.
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Maria Kazan was a student (in the medieval sense of the word) and companion Faith Ermolayeva - one of the famous "Amazons" of the Russian avant-garde, repressed after the assassination of Kirov, who died in the camp in 1938.
If you, dear, from this phrase read that the author took Mary of Kazan to the Russian avant-garde, then sincerely recommend to read the books in the Russian language. But not very aware of how the syntax of the Ukrainian language is different from the Russian, but apparently ukrainization to go in vain for the former Russian speakers.
However, you can do without textbooks.
Here is a brief explanation of which, I hope you'll understand.
In this case, the noun "Amazon", together with its definition, involved two turnovers and two dependent words, acts as a common definition to the name "Yermolayeva", as agreed with him on the case (in this case, the genitive).
If something is not clear, ready to provide further clarification.

Is the work of a remarkable artist Mary of Kazan rehash of Impressionism? To the same extent that it is possible to tell, say, otnoscheniya to Larionov. If you want, select only the "impressionistic" work and please - here's a "rehash". If Larionov made only them, it would not be Larionov. What has been said is quite true in relation to Kazan. However, one sees that he wants to see.

As for the classification (if there is a wish to think labels) that Mary of Kazan should, perhaps, be described just the name of one of the recent books on this phenomenon in the Soviet art of the 1920s and 30s - "Between the avant-garde and socialist realism."
This is the definition of "contradiction" that is not associated with the stylistic features, but rather a definition of the historical and social plan. Olga Roytenberg called him "galaxy", some call "the silent art." The author of the book sometimes uses the term "non-polar art." Well, etc.

But you can impressionism - that's how anyone would want.

The main thing - what a great artist ...



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Старый 30.05.2013, 07:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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wholeheartedly recommend re-read books in the Russian language.
"Gallery" July 12 "is the first official exhibition [COLOR=Red"]Russian avant-garde artist[/COLOR] Borisovny Mary of Kazan"

Therefore, read the books themselves.
And why on Russian? There's that teach logic or understanding of the text?
In general - the same nonsense, as well as about "Russian avant-garde."

"For former Russian native speakers." What is this nonsense? I'm with you on that Mongolian communicate?
What a way debility become personal in suspended disputes.

And if these arguments are not debarred for you, and just want to sell her work under the story of the "Russian avant-garde," you-just cheat. Since no Russian avant-garde in her works there.

P.S. By the way, about the deception: you have brought such a statement-
  
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Kazan chosen direction, characterized by emotional, impulsive, color, line and composition nervous.
Turns out, the text of which is extracted, in the sense of a different way:
"When Kazan turned to independent work, she chose her emotionally close Fauvism, with the color of the impulsive, nervous line and composition, built on the primacy of spots ..."
Ie - Fauvism and Impressionism student work, sezanizma, "as well as copying the masterpieces of the French school."




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Старый 30.05.2013, 09:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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usynin2, thanks, I'm very happy!
Of course, first of all we are grateful to the organizers of this exhibition, as well as the creators of the wonderful portal http://obtaz.com/, through which you can learn about such events, and clearly meet them.

I must say that the current detailed photo exhibitions, which has consistently appearing on this site are played, in my opinion, a huge role in the "propaganda" of the St. Petersburg art.

Some time ago, when the site was frozen (moved from the site of the new narod.ru), I confess, felt himself in a kind of "cultural vacuum" - used to "comfortably" to follow the painter. life in contemporary Petersburg. Now, thank God everything went back to normal ..

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Where can I buy a monograph on Mary Borisovne? If posodeystvuete, I will be very grateful!
The fact is, Alexander, I am in Moscow. If you will not be in the foreseeable future in St. Petersburg gladly try to get the catalog for you. Of course such a book

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which was published about 90 works of Kazan, a unique documentary material and a catalog of almost all surviving paintings and drawings.
just need to have!


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's desire to tie it to the Russian avant-garde - and the cart can also become attached to the money under an expensive Russian avant-garde.
And to me, Fed, I'm sorry, in this case is not so clear your desire to tie the exhibition organizers exclusively vested interests. And believe me, the works of the Leningrad school of the 30-ies. there is no need to fill the price, especially in such a strange way.

Just artists of this circle (unofficial Art Society) has long been considered part of the avant-garde. Now, there is even a famous book: "Vanguard, stopped on the run. Book about how the banks of the Aral Sea disappeared artist Vera Yermolayeva, and then disappeared somewhere and the sea, IL, Aurora, 1989."

One of the important and very well-known, I assure you, the books:
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book about how the banks of the Aral Sea lost an artist Vera Yermolayeva
From Karaganda to the Aral Sea , 1,200 km .
It is said that St. Petersburg was built under the Oslo Accords.

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Just the artists of this circle ( the unofficial Art Society )
Informal art emerged in the 60s. And it turned out eventually that the " Bulldozer Exhibition " participated in the order of more artists than it actually is.

And then the same thing - not all artists of the first third of the 20th century. tied to the Russian avant-garde.
Here we are not talking about the " circle" of staff and students Malevich's not talking about Ermolayeva caught then in Leningrad (unfortunately , not in Paris).
And talking about the student who took lessons from Ermolayeva in the early 30 's.

Fauvism , impressionism ... Miraculously , if you like . But do not confuse the concept . And in the book to avoid confusion , and mentioned that she was arrested at 3 months among other Leningrad intelligentsia . After 25 years, this reference suddenly transformed into " Russian avant-garde artist ." But this is the object of study of myth .




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Старый 30.05.2013, 14:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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Informal art emerged in the '60s.
Fed, let me answer you with a quote from the thesis to one of the papers read at the scientific conference of art St. Petersburg State University in November 2011, I personally can not agree with this:

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Artists of the generation born in the 1890-1900-ies., Were in the midst of the avant-garde movement to social realism. Their teachers - artists "Jack of Diamonds", the avant-garde, who taught at the new professional schools such as Art Workshops. Severe historical conditions in which the party has concentrated power over artistic culture, made it impossible to self-determination and forced artists "adjust" under the official art. Hence - a galaxy of "uncomplicated" artists, and a whole layer of a little-known, poorly studied art 30s., Which did not fit into the official line of "realistic in form, revolutionary in content" of art. This gives the opportunity to speak about the existence of "unofficial Soviet art" 30s.

http://www.actual-art.org/en/k2011-2...bchenkova.html

http://www.actual-art.org/en/
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I hope this is the only inaccuracy in the book.
Despite certain shortcomings album, its publication at that time was a very important event. Perhaps no less important than for the last decade was the publication of the well-known research O.Roytenberg.

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book in 1989, its authors simply could not then know what has become known now that the VM Yermolayeva was sentenced on the second court to the supreme social protection - and that the death sentence was executed 26 September 1937.
Certainly



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Despite some flaws album, his edition of the then time was a very important event.
People are just out of this album even know about the museum in Nukus and about the product stored there, learned many names, see the work of these artists.



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People are just out of this album even know about the museum in Nukus and about the product stored there , learned many names , see the work of these artists .
About what it <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

That is why , because of the " prevoprohodcheskogo " character album , its very name (with the term the vanguard) , in a sense gives a positive answer , put the point of the i, the issue of the ownership of the " the whole layer of a little-known , poorly studied art 30s " to this subject ( vanguard ) .



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Persuaded, though to Suprematism , Constructivism , abstract art , Cubo-Futurism and analytical art will be added Fauvism and Impressionism . Dilute thinner, and declare all the Russian avant-garde .
If there is a sovereign democracy , why not talk myself in this .

And given you a report on the unwinding of the forgotten , is sovdepovskom - realistic artist with a story that turns out to be the avant-garde is a "flight to the scenery ," I can give opinion:
Author's three-volume monograph " Russian Avant-Garde " A. Krusanov that contrasts the Russian avant-garde Russian modernism and realism , impressionism , symbolism , ...




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