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Old 19-05-2013, 20:38 Original language: Russian        #21
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Hosspodi , how much of this was in the late USSR !
This hudfondovaya sharashka these their endless epic - genre scenes with the worker-peasant characters.
And they were called in a simple way , " on the shore " , "before fishing ", " morning ", " noon ", " evening" , and were still sitting lonely women . Same as wallpaper , these are called - the "waiting ."
I wonder where all these pictures go? They were made under the contract in great quantities.
I politely asked (sorry , I deleted the message, if it is someone you can restore the preserved ) you do not participate in this thread is then your message.

Because I think the indiscriminate criticism "only" is not productive. Yes , base kombinatovskie /design works ( thank you , sergejnowo for the link to the website - Lauritz.com) - it's awful (by the way , this is what many call " social realism " ) , but there were masterovitye artists with beautiful possession of painting technique , with its peculiar aesthetics and time dt and etc. ... and one size fits all - do not agree .




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Old 19-05-2013, 20:55 Original language: Russian        #22
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Old 19-05-2013, 21:06 Original language: Russian        #23
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I politely asked (sorry, I deleted the message, if it is someone you can restore the preserved) you do not participate in this thread is then your message.

Because I think the indiscriminate criticism "only" is not productive. Yes, base kombinatovskie /design works - it's awful (by the way, this is what many call "social realism"), but there were masterovitye artists with great mastery of the technique of painting, with its peculiar aesthetics and time dt and etc. ... and one size fits all - do not agree.
Your request did not interfere, because I did not understand the question (almost literally) has emerged as a response to this post is not, and after it's where I just answered your question. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...01&postcount=6 Therefore also caused confusion not only for me.

If you wrote that you disagree with me, I would not say a word.

And not everyone with the same brush. Art of the late USSR was happening in front of me and I know very well as who and how many received these orders, and prices even remember now (I thought - there is still only remember some on the painting).
By the way, I am not now criticize, and even then beginning, my first article was published in 1982 and since then has regularly published and censored, and then they were not laudatory, so why would I now is the art of praise. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->




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Old 19-05-2013, 21:22 Original language: Russian        #24
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Your request not to interfere , because I did not understand the question (almost literally ) was introduced as a response not to the message, and then that's it, where I just answered your question . http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...01&postcount=6
Do not want to enter into a showdown , but for the sake of truth, I am now going to ask the Administrator to recover my deleted message in its entirety and in the same place .

I would like to note that the post to which you refer has been changed by you and the phrase , "I knew. " ... about the " pointillism ", etc. initially it was not!

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Therefore caused confusion not only for me .
Does anyone still perplexed ?

Oh , you have me in retaliation " for bad behavior " spasibki of the first post to remove <! - ~ 9 ~ -> . I cry <! - ~ 12 ~ -> .




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Old 19-05-2013, 21:41 Original language: Russian        #25
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Do not want to enter into a showdown , but for the sake of truth, I am now going to ask the Administrator to recover my deleted message in its entirety and in the same place .

I would like to note that the post to which you refer has been changed by you and the phrase , "I knew. " ... about the " pointillism ", etc. initially it was not!

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Does anyone still perplexed ?

Oh , you have me in retaliation " for bad behavior " spasibki of the first post to remove <! - ~ 9 ~ -> . I cry <! - ~ 12 ~ ->.
What is it I have changed ?
I edit often because of a punctuation because KDVina , at the same time I 'm writing in Armenian , I do not find the keys in the same place . Anyway, there I add clarification.
And to put Like when you are rude and kicked out , you know, it would be strange , even for me . Although I'm usually more than generous with huskies .
 Crying do not have enough " Sorry , did not understand ," but it seems to be weak. Yes, and I'm tired already to deal with all of this , and work to do .
so do not bother .



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Old 19-05-2013, 22:05 Original language: Russian        #26
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I, for example.



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Old 19-05-2013, 22:33 Original language: Russian        #27
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Konstantin, Grigory, I ask you to restore the deleted message to my address zarajara asking them not to write in the subject "Which style of painting, attributed such a manner of painting concentration.
70h-nach.80 was "in full and place it in the same place.
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Old 19-05-2013, 23:18 Original language: Russian        #28
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 Socialist Realist painting .. for art historians have identified specific terms ...
Is it a space, or a problem, I do not know. One thing I know, it's very difficult to do because of that you also have called
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This hudfondovaya sharashka these their endless epic-genre scenes with the worker-peasant characters.
And they were called in a simple way, "on the shore", "before fishing", "morning", "noon", "evening", and were still sitting lonely women. Same as wallpaper, these are called - the "waiting."
 That is, to put it mildly, because of the huge amount of repetitive faceless painting. Distinguish it is possible unless the place of writing: Vladimir School etc.
Artists of course, were for "internal use" their name "technique and manner of writing" (eg, "kondovy realism", "terry realism" or "square-cluster method '<! - ~ 1 ~ ->) But it will not help you. You have to strain himself, hardly anyone on the go here you invent something beautiful.
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I wonder where all these pictures go? They were made under the contract in great quantities.
All purchased by the Department of Culture distributed by companies and institutions or stockpiled at special stores. After the collapse of the Soviet Union during the period of confusion is very much carried off to their homes. We Samara some artists in the 90s carried from such warehouse their work, money that has already been produced for a long time and will drive. Then the work was sold again (including through auctions) already in private hands.



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Old 19-05-2013, 23:37 Original language: Russian        #29
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enough, "Sorry, do not understand," but it seems to be weak. Yes, and I'm tired already to deal with all of this, and work to do.
so do not bother.
Wait, I utruzhus! Not low (a good move), for which I apologize? I understand you correctly and carefully read your posts.
That's why all the rest of the theme: Cyril Syzransky, sergejnowo, Sergei burly, IV, artcol, DSF in a relaxed manner, with dignity, weighted in favor of a topic, for which I am grateful.
But your message, starting with the first, carried a lot of negative energy that you carefully re-read, here's quotes:

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Hosspodi, how much of this was in the late USSR!

This hudfondovaya sharashka these their endless epic-genre scenes with the worker-peasant characters.
 
... And were still sitting lonely women. Same as wallpaper, these are called - the "waiting."

"There is no such special techniques and manners of this painting is not, it all went under the label of" socialist realism "."
Your point of view, "Socialist realism - ... HSNO Act!", I understood immediately and publicly asked you in this thread is not to write. You promised me that at 19:33.

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U_Z leave, leave <! - ~ 5 ~ ->
But did not keep his word and continued to speak until 21:41.
The theme was created by me for specific purposes, not for you overtones "Socialist Realism."

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The Art of the late USSR was happening in front of me and I know very well as who and how many received these orders, and prices even remember now (I thought - there is still only remember some on the painting). By the way, I am not now criticize, and even then beginning, my first article was published in 1982 and since then has regularly published and censored, and then they were not laudatory, so why would I now praise the art. "
If you want to show your attitude towards social realism, create a new theme, and there publish your articles (clippings of articles, then you have certainly filed away), scan and share your productions. The public forum you comment on them, and believe me, the debate is hot.

But if you do not, then all your posts about the articles - flood clean water.

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... editing is often because of a punctuation because KDVina, at the same time I'm writing in Armenian, I do not find the keys in the same place.
The text is something like the Russian was, and here is the Armenian.

Zarajara, for the future, one simple thing, if a person is not interested in your opinion on an issue, and he said to you about this, you should not be offended, just need to step back and take care of business ... or move to another topic.




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But your message, starting with the first , carried a lot of negative energy
You show it. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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in a relaxed manner , with dignity, carefully expressed in the topic
Similarly expressed and zarajara.

Frankly speaking, I do not understand is that in the said zarajaraoy you hurt . Well, that does not understand. You wasted it all ...



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