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Old 27-10-2012, 18:03 Original language: Russian        #11
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Dear all, I ask you to give a price!



I think that the discussion of employee Grabar deserves a separate topic on the forum.
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Old 27-10-2012, 18:22 Original language: Russian        #12
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​​Dear all, I ask you to give a price !

I think that the discussion of employee Grabar deserves a separate topic on the forum. Regards
As you storge .
So all the scare of his theme, do not hear anything .
Participants of the forum are not robots at the information desk - goes freestyle conversation, which may ( mozhet! ) display the answer to your question.



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Old 27-10-2012, 18:30 Original language: Russian        #13
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And in my uneducated opinion - Makhotina completely fulfilled the money paid by the client.

I wonder how the result of this work - expert opinion - will help it to sell and make a profit.
For me, so throw out one thousand dollars down the drain.



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Dear all, I ask you to give a price !
want to know the price , give it up for auction.
In Europe, only high quality and fine copies of old masters , made n /x , are 1000 - 5000 evrov .
If the quality is not very decorative and extremely low cost of such work is rarely higher than 1000 euros.
Ebee on your job without expert opinion and with a hint of authorship famous Frenchman, would have brought 800 - 1000 euros.
In the event that two buyers would strongly believed in the authorship of the famous Frenchman, 1000-3000 evrov .
With the price of an expert report would have been no higher than 600 - 800 euros.

Although there are exceptions , such as a master copy made ​​from another great master ordered Flemish king.
Then the balance of the other.

Auction average hand , say in Germany, would put this work on sale from the start 800 - 1000 euros , although now everyone is trying to start as low as possible .

Price in Russia , in this situation , do not tell .
I'll be at the Kunsthalle next time , I'll try to find and photograph the work , it will be interesting to compare the good photos.

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I wonder how the result of this work - expert opinion - will help it to sell and make a profit . For me, so throw out one thousand dollars down the drain.
as experience shows , hope and imagination , the great engine of commerce .
In this case, the expert opinion is killing the hopes and fantasies in the bud.




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Old 27-10-2012, 19:41 Original language: Russian        #15
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want to know the price, give it up for auction.
In Europe, only high quality and fine copies of old masters, made n /x, are 1000 - 5000 evrov.
If the quality is not very decorative and extremely low cost of such work is rarely higher than 1000 euros.
Ebee on your job without expert opinion and with a hint of authorship famous Frenchman, would have brought 800 - 1000 euros.
In the event that two buyers would strongly believed in the authorship of the famous Frenchman, 1000-3000 evrov.
With the price of an expert report would have been no higher than 600 - 800 euros.

Although there are exceptions, such as a master copy made from another great master ordered Flemish king.
Then the balance of the other.

Auction average hand, say in Germany, would put this work on sale from the start 800 - 1000 euros, although now everyone is trying to start as low as possible.

Price in Russia, in this situation, do not tell.
I'll be at the Kunsthalle next time, I'll try to find and photograph the work, it will be interesting to compare the good photos.

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as experience shows, hope and imagination, the great engine of commerce.
In this case, the expert opinion is killing the hopes and fantasies in the bud.
Thank you of course, but the picture was bought in the 90s for the 6 so ye
Show me where to buy a painting of the same performance level 250 years ago for 800-1000 Euros, I think I would take a number ve :;



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Old 27-10-2012, 20:05 Original language: Russian        #16
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tunnel, do not misunderstand me , I'm not out of spite and not traded.
You can even ask for $ 100,000, and who will?
Price is not much you can ask for , and how much will end up .
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I think I would take in number of
Now, choose:
http://www.ebay.de/sch/Originale-der-Zeit-/7469/i.html
At the auction even more choice :
http://www.lot-tissimo.com/de/lwr/GEMAE.18/
The truth is almost all the expensive work is signed .



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Thank you of course , but the picture was bought in the 90s for the 6 so ye
Show me where to buy a painting of the same performance level 250 years ago for 800-1000 Euros , I think I would take a number ve < - ~ 6 ~ ->
To " open borders" is a completely 6u.e realno.Seychas 500 cu to such masterpieces , become your mechtoy.Mir me < - ~ 6 ~ -> Where to buy them for 50 $ , you have already shown . so the " experts" will long to pluck grass field khalyavnykh



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