Art-lover, let us conclude this discussion. I felt the administration site on the subject.
The guard is tired ... Me too.
Discussion of "Is it possible to combat vandalism?" (within the sub-sales) ended in nothing. But looking back - "In Search of Lost Time" - it is difficult to get rid of the desire to understand why all the steam went into the whistle. (this is not the administration, and in the order of reflection)
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In truth, I'm not going to be a permanent member of the column "For Sale", and its future destiny for me is not critical. But by opening - by the will of the circumstances - the topic "Is it possible to combat vandalism?" I felt obliged to carefully look into it and from a neutral position to make whatever contribution to the search for solutions.
This was quite interesting, because the nut was quite strong, but difficult to detect conceptual beauty.
At one site, woven so much conflicting interests of different order - the material, ethical, ideological, and psychological - that it can be seen as a mirror, as a small model of the multifaceted life of the community.
Theoretically, one would expect - as often happens under the action of living interests - that the argumentation in the dialogue will be limp. And indeed: some of the pages theme can be used as a visual aid to the logical "negorazdam.
Substitution of abstracts, replacing private general and vice versa, the logical design of simulacra, which are then referred to as reality, tear out non-essential packages from the system, the criticism which will be issued for criticizing the system, suppressing inconvenient arguments, direct distortion of the opponent's thoughts, etc.
And, finally, the most elegant reception eristic (art of the dispute), widely employed by the Bolsheviks in the struggle with the bourgeoisie: translate into substantive discussion of the archetypal plan.
(For example, in discussing the design of the protective device reviewer used the word "hidden" and "restricted" - that should say a fiery speech about commitment to the ideas of liberty, democracy, transparency in government and universal equality. The presence of relief immediately proceed from the consideration of a boring device to rough around the sacred union of progressive ideas ... Well arguing with progressive mankind can only black supporters of the imperialists.)
Concluding this discussion, I will answer Sergeyitch and Gregory at the delay, within days with a response to the treatment of alleged expert on the post on the forum fakes.
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is the death forum. Come out as a conversation between two Finns, and if the conversation involved several people, it is already spoiled by radio. Who's Who is responsible? If you answer, and the answer does not appear immediately, then immediately thought of a forum does not work, and come again and again to track down when he appears - not seriously.
"For Sale" - a small section of a branched huge forum. Even if this section is removed entirely - forum will not perish. Many of this and paid no attention. If every 2 weeks someone will suspect a fake, and wants to inform arguments about this, about the delay he will know the rules section. The appearance of an answer he will be notified in lichku or via e-mail or see my post already published. After all, if the argument of sanity, a message published in the theme of the picture and the debate continues more openly and freely without any delay.
And from this forum will die??
So what else is constantly overlooked. Forum differs from the instant that he works primarily in the "pigeon mail": party sent a message to the topic, and not waiting for the reaction, transferred to other topics, or resigned from the Forum in the real. He returned a few hours or even days, and then you watch what he answered. Moreover, whenever a person puts a serious question, he suggests that the interlocutors need some time to get to the core and to make thoughtful response.
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But! This does not mean you need to stop thinking.
That's it. Only productive thinking depends on the installation: willing to do, find out how, unwilling - why not.
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