Art between the provocation, and cynicism

[nikola]

Сообщение от SAH

there is an answer to the question. Because after all, when we define and separate the art from the usual other areas, which is not art,

Vl.S.Solovev
COMMON SENSE OF ART

Hence the triple task of art in general: 1) the direct objectification of the innermost definitions and qualities of a living idea, which can not be expressed in nature, and 2) the inspiration of the natural beauty and through it 3) the perpetuation of her individual events. This is the transformation of physical into the spiritual life, ie in such that, firstly, is in itself its word, and frankly, can be expressed directly outside, which, secondly, the ability to internally transform, spiritualize matter and truly in it embodied, and which, in the third place, free from power material process and therefore abides forever. The perfect embodiment of this spiritual completeness in our reality, the implementation of its absolute beauty, or the creation of a universal spiritual body is the supreme task of art.

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от nikola

Who and where he said that art should bring only aesthetic pleasure? The world consists of black and white, beautiful, ugly, life and death. and so on. and TP. That is what art should do.

nikola, You do yourself and answer the words Vl.S. Solovyov:

Сообщение от nikola

... The perfect embodiment of this spiritual completeness in our reality, the implementation of its absolute beauty, or the creation of a universal spiritual body is the supreme task of art.

For absolute beauty is precisely what needs to deliver the highest aesthetic pleasure ...

The next time the discussion leads to the most important questions: p
I wonder whether it would be and now have the usual consequences?

[ВЯЧЕСЛАВ]

Сообщение от LCR

The Art between provocation and cynicism

After reading two pages of the forum burdened quoting reflection "authorities" on "contemporary art", one wonders - and what actually mean? Probably still not all about art as such, but about the preferences of A Letter academism other "drag" from the "bulldozer" and "nonkomformistov." The most advanced - from the "conceptual" or "actual" iskusstva.Eto when a man with a university education , broad-minded and understanding of art, looking at the picture and did not understand what was drawn, moreover, the picture did not cause him no emotion. does not clarify the matter and "creator" with kupoy curators that fool you explain what exactly "dawned "in my head the next genius when he painted this" zakoldobinu "across that" hrenoviny. For particularly jaded and sophisticated, with erotic allusions. It does not matter that the quality of the painting in most cases is very low, and ideii, for the most part, secondary . The main thing to sell at a higher price - and here begins naked cynicism.

[Zenia]

I think it is time to separate these two concepts: Contemporary Art and the art of the sixties.


I use Google translator to avoid Roman letters, some phrases may seem strange.

Provocative art, it was present and after, but did not have the same values in modern society. It played an important role, but now it is moving away from the scene.

I see it, watching my students who have difficulties in understanding the art of the sixties. they do not need provocation, they do not need to blow up the framework, but almost the opposite.
with them too much freedom, so they use more clearly in his works

[nikola]

Сообщение от Art-lover

nikola, You do yourself and answer the words Vl.S. Solovieva:

Oh, no. God forbid. If I were to answer this question, I stop to draw and lose a sense of perception of art.

Meister really is a discussion about anything)) is still nowhere come))) can not and will not be unanimity on this. everyone understands the art of depending on the attitude towards it ... it is the same as asking "what is the universe?

Gala ... or: "What is Love?"

Yes, love. sense of art is created very similar to the feelings
in a state of love. In different ages in particular. Remember your attitude towards this feeling in 15, 25,35,45 etc.
And that's the main thing that gave meaning to life.

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Сообщение от Art-lover

The next time the discussion leads to the sacramental question

Art-lover will be reduced if it is to exchange quotations, or someone dares to express their interpretation? After "working" definition of art is for everyone who deals with pictures, but it is generally preferred to keep his bosom.

I think the forum and the task is to talk about art.
Look on the attitude of others, to see the new colors, a new
look at the processes taking place in the world of art.
And on the forum can not stand the question "What is art?" And personal
opinion, "my art", "paintings, which I love and mn.

[SAH]

Сообщение от nikola

can not and will not be unanimity on this. everyone understands the art of depending on the attitude towards it ... it is the same as asking "what is the universe?

Nicolas Bravo. I think that everything is 100%individually. But there is one in my opinion unites tastes are such concepts as good and evil, positive and negative, let me think art can be beautiful and ugly.

Сообщение от nikola

And at the forum can not stand the question "What is art?" And personal
opinion, "my art", "paintings, which I love and mn.

I agree with you.

[nikola]

Сообщение от SAH

Nicolas Bravo.

Bravo for Meister.

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Zenia

provocative art, it was present and after, but does not have the same values in modern society. It played an important role, but now it is moving away from the scene.

How about responding - that zadachka for Buridan's ass ...
All right, lady - here, gentlemen - there.

Сообщение от Zenia

provocative art ... not have the same values in modern society. It played an important role, but now it is moving away from the scene.

I see it, watching my students ... they do not need provocation, they do not need to blow up the framework, but almost the opposite.
with them too much freedom, so they use more clearly in his works

After Dada and black square all further "provocative" art - pathetic grimace.
This is the flight from freedom.
The question of freedom - the central issue of art. And it is very cruel question for the artist. More precisely, for the artist.
Watch the sun and not go blind ...
Even Malevich could not resist torture absolute freedom.
The majority of the artists of this question or are blind, or flee from him as soon as possible.

[Meister]

Art-lover, but what do you mean by "escape from freedom"?

[Zenia]

Сообщение от nikola

Hence the triple task of art in general .......


...... The perfect embodiment of this spiritual completeness in our reality, the implementation of its absolute beauty, or the creation of a universal spiritual body is the supreme task of art.

I wish I allow deep divisions!!

Who makes such kind of problem in the art as a whole or for one artist?