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Старый 21.03.2011, 20:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Help rate (old copper powder-box with the miniature on enamel)

Here is a pantry godsend. Copper powder-box resembles a round shell with a miniature in enamel ( on top ) . Diameter powder- 50 mm , the height of the convex point of 7 mm . Photos are attached . Photo thumbnails are not very good with a flash picture is distorted , but without the flash extremely dark , but as reflecting the colors of the miniature. I would appreciate any helpful comments about the discovery .

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Старый 22.03.2011, 08:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Mass production of those years working for the suburbs.

Worth a dime.
Today, I think, up to 1 tys.r.

Would have been golden so with a portrait of someone from the royal family ...
But then it would be my grandmother was his grandfather.
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Старый 22.03.2011, 13:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Mass production of those years working for the suburbs.
Worth a dime. Today, I think, up to 1 tys.r.
Thank you dear heir!
But I have another question. I forgot to specify in the first place report finds (Peterhof rn Len. Reg.). This hot enamel. But if hot enamel, then how can such a mass production? And how it could be worth a penny in those days?
Hot enamel:
Enamel (French email, from Frankish smeltan - melting; ancient Russian Enamels) - First, the technique used in jewelry, art, and secondly, a glassy alloy containing metal oxides. Enamel can be cold (without burning) and hot, with a painted metal oxides pasty mass is put on a specially treated surface and is subjected to high temperature firing, which results in a glassy layer of color.
Among the many areas of decorative and fine arts enamel is the most difficult and complex, comparable to the jewelry business.
Secrets of the enamel on the Rus were well-known masters, but lost after the Mongol invasion. Only in the XIV century in Moscow and Novgorod revived Russian enamel art. In Western Europe, enamel decorated with jewels and luxuries of kings and high dignitaries of the church. In Russia, the best enamel school serving the treasury of the Kremlin. Laborious, jewelry and expensive machinery was expensive for a royal houses, churches and the Russian nobility. Enamel technique is widely used company Sazikov and Faberge.
The highest achievements of art enamel abroad XIX-XX centuries been associated with the Faberge firm, based in St. Petersburg in 1842, did not anyone famous comes from the French by Gustav Faberge.
The whole process of firing and enameling requires the ability, skill, patience and knowledge of the secrets of color and properties of each metal oxides. Enamel somewhat reminiscent of masters for the production of violins, knowing the secrets of lacquer, wood, etc.
The molten mass of pigment applied to the metal plates of gold, silver and copper. Solidify, the enamel forms a hard, glassy surface, bewitching eyes glitter paint, as if lit from within.
Hot enamel combines many different techniques and ways of processing, such as metal and enamel itself, enabling a variety of solutions, both decorative and hard-scenic. Paints used are glassy powders, bred by water, which are applied to a clean copper or steel of high quality. The plates are fired in a muffle furnace at a temperature of 850 degrees Celsius. After firing, the paint layer to the quality of glass. Depending on the complexity of composition and pictorial tasks, the plates are held from 5 to 60 firings. Once deposited the next layer, the master is not free to interfere in the interaction between paint and fire. It can only, based on knowledge of material and insight to regulate the time and temperature of roasting. From this combination of deliberate and precise actions on the accident is born uniqueness of each piece. Repeat it can not even author. Hot enamel, by its very nature, there is only one copy.



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Старый 22.03.2011, 13:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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how massive can be such a production?
And how it could be worth a penny in those days?
Type in a search engine "Rostov enamel" and look at the modern rates for enamel in silver.
You will see wonderful things no more than 1 thousand rubles.
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Старый 22.03.2011, 14:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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Korsy, look here, can be found similar to yours.



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Korsy, look here, can be found similar to his.
Thank you! Just yesterday I found out that it is not powder-box, and mushnitsa.
Miniature casket to store cosmetic flies-mushnitsa, a compulsory subject on the dressing table 18 centuries. Round brass lockable box, has a ring for suspension (for example, on a chain). Inside a small mirror. The cover is decorated with guilloche enamel translucent ruby ​​color (guilloche enameling technique-surface engraved pattern in the form of rays, which gives the surface a certain visual effect). At the edge of the lid - a milky color enamel (is chipped). In Europe, the fashion for artificial birthmark came in the late 17 century with the mysterious East. In the old days in the East it was believed that a beautiful woman on the face must certainly be at least one mole. Flies were doing there in aromatics and pounded jewelry. In Europe, fly to the then fashionable women were made of black or red taffeta, moire or velvet. In Russia, the flies have gained popularity in the second half of the 18 th century and were nicknamed "Venus flowers. Small ornaments in the form of a heart, flower, star, artfully carved carriage with four horses, or fleas glued to the face, shoulders, arms and chest. They were not only used for decoration or disguise flaws. But the main purpose of artificial moles were forming a special language characters - the number and location of the flies could tell about their owner all. Since the front sight is placed on the forehead, testified that the lady impregnable, and fly above the upper lip or at the temple, in contrast, hinted at some levity paste it singular. Artificial birthmark under his nose saying someone "goodbye", and one that has been placed on her cheek, meant a long-awaited "yes." Fly-crescent invited for overnight visits, amurchik means love, and the carriage - the agreement on a joint flight. During the evening the ladies could change the location of the flies, thus showing the change of mood or signaling on the next desire. Therefore, the flies were with him in a small elegant casket. When fashion on the foreheads reached its climax, ladies and dandies (men also used the flies), sometimes stuck too many flies in the face. Confusion in the symbols. To somehow regulate the use of artificial birthmarks and take into account all the nuances of their values ​​was even issued a special "Registry about colors and the fly." Zaleplivat his face to a state beyond recognition was considered bad manners - it was "befitting" only among the courtesans. In Europe in the early 19 th century ladies stopped carrying flies are gone and mushnitsy. In Russia, the ubiquitous fashion flies just stepped back in the 19 century, but many society ladies were unable to part with such coquettish habit.



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