Sell: 2 pictures Valentin Serov

[Тютчев]

Originally Posted by eva777

average price for the work Sereva about 2,000 dollars, the same artpraysu, and then, most of Neh not sold ...
A drawing by Durer in the history can be seen a few pieces on sale, so that Mr. Tjutchev, do not distort ..

eva777, your message finds you in person, not very knowledgeable in that matter, about which you write.
First, not "Serev, and Valentin Serov.
Secondly, you write that the average price for work of Serov «about 2000 dollars, the same artpraysu, and then, most of them are not sold ...» Let us now consider in detail that list lots, which shows Artprays. Total units 28 pieces. Of these, frankly dubious works - 11 pieces. I hope for you is no secret that not all the pictures are authentic to the European and American auctions. This particularly applies to lots issued for the works of Russian artists. Why especially? Because experts on Russian art and graphics there is simply no. Therefore, filter flow falshakov just anybody. And the new Russian collectors are not always sufficiently knowledgeable in order to not make some mistakes when buying a questionable work. It is a natural problem of market formation of Russian art. 28-11=17.
See below. 6 lots - is the work of an entirely different artist. They mistakenly ran into a number of works of Valentin Serov, because it is the work of Valentin namesake and his namesake, the initials of the full (Serov, VA) - Serov, Vladimir Aleksandrovich (1910-1968). Almost all the work "illegally" in the list Artpraysa - this is the image of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, who, as I hope you understand, Valentin Serov (which, incidentally, portrayed the royal family and Russian aristocracy) simply had no opportunity to portray because of his death in 1911, 17-6 = 11.
  Part of the remaining 11 lots were sold in 90-ies. It is no secret that in this period, hard times and the initial formation of the Russian art market in a relatively small money you could buy real masterpieces of Russian art. Amounts in $ 10.000-20.000 seemed huge. It is no accident, because for that money you could buy an apartment in Moscow. But even at such a time for the graphic work of Valentin Serov's "The Rape of Europa" (sketch by well-known work is stored in STG K. Tempera 71h98) at the auction was paid $ 62.000 (a photo of this work I present below).
 Of the 11 works designated as «not sold», 5 can be confidently attributed to falshakam or incorrectly attributed, and the remaining 6 - this work (which depicted Lenin) of the same namesake Valentin Serov Soviet artist Vladimir Serov. And to be quite strict, it is only 4-5 lots from the above Artpraysom can be considered works of Valentin Serov respect unconditionally.
Making a conclusion from the analysis (and my experience), we can say that the work of Valentin Serov extremely rare at auction and the market as a whole. But if you come across the real work of good quality, collectors willing to pay for her very impressive amount. What was confirmed sale, held in 2006 (The Rape of Europa $ 310.000), of which I wrote above. If you compare the list of sales of works by Durer, and not the entire history of sales, writes eva777, but only since 1986 (because it is this year is the earliest dated sales Durer from Artpraysa), it turns that authentic works by Durer in this period was sold 5 units, ie as much and authentic works of Valentin Serov for almost the same time period. The price paid for the most expensive work of Durer, higher prices for the most expensive work of Valentin Serov, but not much (see above). It should be noted that the work of Durer are present in the European market for about 400 years, and the work of Valentin Serov's only 25 years old, and then only for fledgling Russian art market.
In conclusion, I must nevertheless say that I am not a supporter of such comparisons. Compare works by Durer and Serov incorrectly. They are representatives of different epochs, and each of them belongs to the first name, representing the national school of his country and his time in the world of art. My only excuse is that I had to compare their work only in terms of investment attractiveness, as well as the fact that I was not the initiator of this dubious venture.

    And not to seem gratuitous, declare that he was ready to buy any number of original works (in any technique), Valentin Serov and 2000 U.S. dollars each. Let me remind you what the price eva777 defined as the average price paid to European tender for the work of this artist. Waiting for suggestions!

P.S. eva777, I would ask you not to use against me the verb "to distort, not being sure that I cheat or sharper. Thanks in advance ...

Sales date 12/14/1995
Hammer price GBP 41,000
EUR 47,503 - USD 62,320 - GBP 41,000
Estimate GBP 35,000 - 45,000
   
Category Drawing-Watercolour
   
Medium Gouache, pencil
Location London (GB)
Size 31x38 cm - (12 1/6x15 in)
Auction house Sotheby's
Dated 1910
Lot number 243

The work of Valentin Serov's "The Rape of Europe" sold for $ 62.000 in 1995:

[Игорь Гурьев]

[Тютчев]

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

See below. 6 lots - is the work of an entirely different artist. They mistakenly ran into a number of works of Valentin Serov, because it is the work of Valentin namesake and his namesake, the initials of the full (Serov, VA) - Serov, Vladimir Aleksandrovich (1910-1968). Nearly all the work "illegally" in the list Artpraysa - a picture by Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, who, as I hope you understand, Valentin Serov (which, incidentally, portrayed the royal family and Russian aristocracy) are simply not able to depict due to its demise in 1911, 17-6 = 11.

Photographs of works of Vladimir Aleksandrovich Serov (1910-1968), who Artprays mistakenly issued for work of Serov Valentin Alexandrovich (1865-1911). They were not sold («not sold») except one (750 EUR):

[Тютчев]

Originally Posted by Guriev, Igor

And shortly thereafter pushed for pollimona, but now its price is ten times more.
No?

I think, "The Rape of Europe" now stands a very good money. But this work is no longer sold at auction. And for $ 310.000 at an auction in 2006, was sold to other graphic work Serov. I wrote about it above (#29).

[Игорь Гурьев]

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

I think, "The Rape of Europe" now stands a very good money.

I remember one very big collector took pity on her pollimona in mid-1990.
A friend asked him: "What did not you buy it?"

"And because the fool," - said the collector.

But then pollimona seemed very large sum.

Yes, even when the author's repetition vasnetsovskogo "Knight at the Crossroads" was sold in early 1990 for 100 thousand, this seemed limitless amount of time ...

[NATA NOVA]

Because "Serov line" in 1902 and psevdoserovskaya line in 1907-Misc.

[Santa]

Figures on Valentin Serov


http://vserov.ru/risunok/33.php

[Игорь Гурьев]

This is - Serov??


(This is the site of Serowe)

[Тютчев]

Originally Posted by Guriev, Igor

This is - Serov??


(This is the site of Serowe)

And what is not Serov?
This work, "Woman with a Jug" (54.3x31 oil on canvas) from the State of Vladimir-Suzdal Historical-Architectural Museum-Reserve.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Originally Posted by Tyutchev

And what is not Serov?

A strange thing.
Although you never know?

There, he has a "line from Moscow to Kuzminki."


It would be interesting to know when she was admitted to the Vladimir museum.


If the signature of "B. Oreshnikov" I would not have issues.