Vekselberg has accused Christie's in counterfeit trade

[Игорь Гурьев]

[Grigory]

[artcol]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

and eventually a wonderful thing. Unless of course Vekselberg loses court. In this case, will be established precedent, when the Russian examination will not be quoted by the court. And then it follows that the Christie's expert on Russian art will be recognized as the most honest and objective. Although I very much doubt the competence of their experts.
We'll have to forget about Grabar, with their illegitimate for two years, the press, the scandalous experts Tretyakov, the humorous examinations GosNIIR, the Russian Museum, which reacted with reverence. And all in orderly rows go to examination at Christie's.
Delusional, of course, the script, but then only in life does not happen ...

Then it will follow that both experts and buyers from Russia - the people with incomplete rights . Even such as Vekselberg. With all the attendant. Who needs it? It is therefore strange that Christy had brought the matter to court. MB is a PR move that? Strange PR move though.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от artcol

It is therefore strange that Christie had brought the matter to court. MB is a PR move that? Strange PR move though.

He spoke on this topic with a colleague who was involved in marketing of transnational companies. At two years younger, but most intelligent people. It agreed that this is a normal tactic of defense - not to recognize the charges to fight. It turns out there are lots of people, amateurs who think that the brand auctions are not sold falshaki. And continue to think so. They are by no means impossible to disappoint. Let there be at least questioned. Let say that Vekselberg that got it wrong or for any other reason runs into. Let the doubt, let them distrust works in favor of a decent auction. And if you just do some "sincere raskachnie", then all. All the same, that the investigation be recognized.
Just who will monitor the situation and try to understand it - a minority. The scandal eventually turn into the fog - whether he stole a hat, whether he had his hat stolen.
The farther it is obvious that this lawsuit is no fool. Although at first glance it seems otherwise. It is strange that brought to this situation - is yes.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Vladimir

spoke on this topic with a colleague who was involved in marketing of transnational companies. At two years younger, but most intelligent people. It agreed that this is a normal tactic of defense - not to recognize the charges to fight. It turns out there are lots of people, amateurs who think that the brand auctions are not sold falshaki. And continue to think so. They are by no means impossible to disappoint. Let there be at least questioned. Let consider that Vekselberg that got it wrong or for any other reason naezzhate. Let the doubt, let them distrust works in favor of a decent auction. And if you just do some "sincere raskachnie", then all. All the same, that the investigation be recognized.
Farther, it is obvious that this lawsuit is not fools. Although at first glance it seems otherwise. It is strange that brought to this situation - this is so.

If the requirements Vekselberg met - then all you can beat the b-th (practice protection, then, a). Maybe even a plus to go in terms of reputational - all honest, considered, fulfilled. And if not - then the buyers seriously frustrate zeal in respect of such investment purchases, preferring them to be more conservative, plus damage to the reputation of the oldest auction (Provisional Government fufel you there and back no ekpertizami then you do not prove). Well, keep in mind is that in the UK case law. If the court decides the irrelevance of the examination of Russian experts - continue to think you can not continue. IMHO.

But as long roll in the wrong direction, in my opinion. It had turnover of scandal.

[Eriksson]

Сообщение от SergeiSK

And all the orderly go to examination at Christie's.
Delusional, of course, the script, but then only in life does not happen ...

Auction Houses no scientific expertise do not.
Gold mining role, as everyone knows, confirmed provenance or the conclusion of the Foundation of the artist.
Phenomenon "in any cost to get an expert opinion with the press" - exclusively Russian phenomenon, that, in fact, has created thousands of "expertise", suitable for pasting except outhouse. The demand creates supply, and not vice versa ...
Breeding fakes - swells and Institute of false expertise .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Eriksson

Phenomenon" at any cost to get an expert opinion with the press "- exclusively Russian phenomenon, that, in fact, has created thousands of" expertise ", suitable for pasting except outhouse.

This very feature of the Russian market: the lack of provenance. This is in "Europe /America" everything is transparent, but as in Russia to admit that the picture in the estate of his or hung in a house on the English Embankment in St. Petersburg?
And all these revolutions but war? That created a situation that provenance is a matter on the 10th, and faith in the stories about him are no sellers of pictures, and comes to the fore examination as the only authentication.

[artcol]

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от artcol

Even such as Vekselberg.

There is no such people, even . There are citizens or in the case of UK nationals. At that same right. All the same, who they are - Russian Jews or British Indians. I suspect that for the English court will apply these principles. And equal to the adversarial process, if the aforesaid place.

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Сообщение от artcol

then buyers seriously frustrate zeal in respect of such investment purchases

But who will buy these naked women for such money except dolbanutyh Russian oligarchs with esthetic tastes peteushnika? ... Whom do you mean? About the people who hang on the wall posters of naked girls in oschezhitiyah?

Which Western investors will buy this, spit them on this scandal. And a major Russian collectors, too.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

There is no such people, even . There are citizens or in the case of UK nationals. At that same right. All the same, who they are - Russian Jews or British Indians. I suspect that for the English court will apply these principles. And equal to the adversarial process, if the aforesaid place.

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But who will buy these naked women for such money except dolbanutyh Russian oligarchs with esthetic tastes peteushnika? ... Whom do you mean? About the people who hang on the wall posters of naked girls in oschezhitiyah?

Which Western investors will buy this, spit them on this scandal. And a major Russian collectors, too.

You who diskutiruete? With me? Then why my quote in your post?
Shl That distinguished forumchanin Eugene believes that Vekselberg bought a picture of a talented author and not the picture of a naked woman.