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set critically.
But as always somewhere in between.
Painting life to decorate. Definitely. However, life is decorated not only cheap pictures, but expensive (in addition to memorable). So much for investment.
But in museums paintings, too, must fall. BUT then, if caught, they should see the audience, not just the principal guardians of the storerooms of museums.



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Vilkovo of Rosohrakultury
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What can you expect from state officials
By the way, and works there now, AI Vilkov there?
I know that Kibovskogo, head of the Federal Service for Supervision of Law for the Protection of Cultural Heritage (Rosokhrankultura), now two deputy: Efimov Nikolai Y.
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Natalia Sokolova

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Fakes pictures by famous masters flooded the art market. Investing in art have become very risky.

   Fund Aurora, acting as thought in the interests of Russian businessman Viktor Vekselberg, filed in the High Court in London claim to the auction house Christie's. The reason for the proceedings - was bought in 2005 at auction painting "Nude in the interior, also known as" Odalisque ", brush the Russian artist Boris Kustodiev. Cloth purchased nearly $ 3 million, however, held later examination concluded that the picture - high-quality counterfeits. It is said immediately after the purchase "Odalisque" it looked one of the largest collectors of Russian art and the naked eye, has determined that the picture is fake. This is what inspired the owner of the idea of a professional examination. Now, from the Christie's demand to return the money.
   Sam auction house yet decided to take a break. "We take very seriously all the assumptions regarding the authenticity of a work sold at auction Christie's, - the statement says the auction house. - This painting has been returned to us only last November. Analysis of the pictures taken with the moment that confirmed the loyalty of our original attribution. Since the study has not yet been completed, we believe the opening of the trial on the issue as premature. Nevertheless, as the fund Aurora has decided to refer the matter to court, without waiting for the re-examination on our part, we have no other choice but to defend its position. "
   
THIS SHISHKIN or Who?

    In recent years, counterfeiting became a serious problem of the art market - and the Russian, and the world. In our country since 2007, publishes a special "Catalogue of counterfeit works of art." By the way, he comes out with the support of Rosokhrankultura. Now it has published more than a thousand (!) Works, whose origin is from the experts in doubt.
   "In 2009, left a fifth of the directory - says project leader Vladimir Roshin. - On the first page was published" Odalisque "and its Annexes examinations of the Russian Museum and Center Grabar, claimed that a false picture. And then another and experts from the Tretyakov Gallery and the Several independent eq-stuffy confirmed that this is not a picture Kustodiev.
   
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buy antiques as a way of investing becomes every year more and more popular. But it turns out, the art - it is not only profitable but very risky assets. Determine the exact number of counterfeit products on the market very difficult. Someone claims that fake appear in 8-10%cdelok, others believe that counterfeiting among paintings of the first row up to 60%!
   "Such events, when the auction gets a fake picture, very often, simply agreed to settle these scandals on the sidelines, without publicity - continues Roshchin. - These stories rarely become the property of the general public: customers do not want to advertise himself." If you look at the results of the most important trades the largest auction houses, then under "Buyer" often appeared as "unknown buyer on the phone." So it was with "Odalisque." In 2005, the press reported that the painting bought a Russian buyer. And only now surfaced in the press the name of Victor Vekselberg.
   In 1995 a major scandal erupted with fakes in the UK. From 1987 to 1994, Englishman John Mayatt forged works of famous artists and sold them at auction Sotheby's and Christie's. Under the guise of the originals he had sold more than two hundred works in the style of Picasso, Van Gogh and Chagall.
  In 2001, at the tender less well-known auction house, "Lempertts Room 802, in Cologne, was sold a painting by the Dusseldorf school, Andreas Achenbach, and in 2003 it is already in Moscow issued for the work of Ivan Aivazovsky.
   In 2004, the scandal was involved with fakes auction house Sotheby's. On the "Russian sales in London in May 2004 exhibited painting by Ivan Shishkin," Landscape with a stream. " Estimeyt picture - $ 1,28 mln canvas was dated 1863, a time when Shishkin practiced in Europe and was influenced by the so-called School of Dusseldorf in the landscape. But the picture was removed from the auction beforehand. In the auction house called the Russian expert, reported that the work - a fake. "A landscape with a brook" was retouched the work of Dutch artist Marinus Adrian Kukkuka, the price is not more than $ 65 thousand Someone deleted from the picture of a lamb and human figures, adding the signature Shishkin.
   "Most of our artists studied abroad, - says the CEO of the examination and evaluation of works of art" Art Consulting Denis Lukashin. - Given that our band and northern Europe are similar, the distinguished painter of the Dusseldorf school Shishkina quite complicated. One can take a similar labels and quietly gave out Shishkina than a few years ago, all he did. Dealers redeemed at auctions of Germans and perepodpisyvali their Russian names. "
   In January 2010, at Sotheby's sold Portrait of a Woman, attributed to the very brush Leonardo da Vinci. The picture was sold for $ 1.53 million, and later by experts have proved that the work was created no earlier than one hundred years after his death in the style of da Vinci.
   Many fakes are known in the storerooms of museums. After the release of three catalogs Rosokhrankultura forgeries of paintings Tretyakov decided to test their reservists. "We conducted an analysis published in the catalog of works and concluded that out of 561 paintings in the Tretyakov Gallery has passed 215 pieces, of which 116 have received negative feedback from our experts, and 96 forgeries were found to the originals, it's our mistake, and we recognize them, - stated Deputy Director Tretyakovs Coy galleries Lydia Iovleva.
   
PRIRISOVAT Hut

   Falsification of life is of the demand: the number of buyers exceeds the number of outstanding works. By selecting the works that can be "facelift", works connoisseurs of their business. Price "makeover" of the increases of 50-100 times. Undertake similar in nature and style of the famous author of the picture, they made small changes, and she - not previously known "by a famous artist. To produce fakes using an old canvas, the relevant time of paint, distinctive technique and style of writing. Of course, copied the signature of the artist.
   When forgery of works by Russian artists are often removed some items and enter other: instead of castles, villas, there are churches and houses. Now most counterfeited of Igor Larionov, Wassily Kandinsky, Natalia Goncharova and Kazimir Malevich. This is understandable: after all, the Russian Avant-day price - the paintings of Malevich comparable in value with the works of Van Gogh. Vanguard is hard to find, but it is and it is difficult to identify.
   Always fake classics - Ivan Aivazovsky (it is made of "French" and "Italians"), Alexander Kiselyov, Alexander Orlovsky. In recent years, become available to the public the facts of "transforming" the landscape of the Scandinavian and non-Metzke artists in Russian works. For example, Louis Gurlitt became Alexey Bogolyubov, Jan Salakur - Alexander Kiselev, Moras - Lev Lagorio, Kruge - Constantine Kryzhitsky, William Porst - Fyodor Vasilyev. Nordic art we know is bad, and this is one of the reasons why it is often "perelitsovyvayut. Note that the lists of the most counterfeited artists Boris Kustodiev until recently was not.
   Add, falsifies, does not say only the painting itself, but also provenance (history of the emergence of the market and moving it from hand to hand) - craftsmen make the accompanying paper work to prove that it was a collector with a good reputation.
   
Trust but verify

  It remains unclear question, does the auction house expertise "Odalisque" Kustodieva before you put it up for sale. "Apparently," Odalisque "sold based on the provenance without examination - said Roshchin. - That means that the previous owner of the painting was in the eyes of Christie's is so perfect that the auction house did not seek help from the experts." Reputation auction house is made up of the audited work. The examination can be made at the discretion of the auction house, but most of the work falling on the auction, checked. In this case, Christie's had to turn to specialists in Russian art. As a rule, Russian sales of the big auction houses are preceded by the pre-auction impressions, including in Moscow. On display are invited to major experts. After the auction the buyer can make an examination themselves. For example, to invite specialists from the International Association of Antiquaries CINOA. In Russia examination also involved in the International Association of antiquarians and art dealers (MKAAD). By the way, expert operations in Russia now is not licensed. Association, outstanding expertise, working as a self-regulating organization.
   If the experts give a negative conclusion (picture - a fake), then the buyer shows that the conclusion of the auction house. Auction House conducts its review. If the House agrees with the negative conclusion, then the money is returned to the client. Not only offset the costs of shipping and insurance and tax which pays the buyer. If the House disagrees with the negative conclusion, the case is referred to the court, which must render a decision.
   In Russia, museums no longer give out expert advice to individuals. There is a certain paradox. Every major museum, there are "master funds" - paintings of artists whose authorship is not cause anybody any doubt. The experts of the museum used the fund to distinguish fake from the fake. The experts' associations access to these paintings do not. But on the other hand, the museum - government department, if it gives a false conclusion, it discredits not only himself, but the state (as was the case with expert Tretyakov Vladimir Petrov in 2006 - he admitted the error of some of his conclusions). Now museums are doing examination only for themselves and at the request of other museums, and experts from the associations are responsible for their detention personalno.V Ideally, the expert must insure their professional-ing activities. This is logical: after all, expertise da em some assurance cus-entu, which invests in the purchase of works of art a lot of money. "I myself many years ago at Sotheby's bought the picture of a good artist, and then re-sew it to sell, made the examination and told me that this is not the original, - says gallery owner Emelyan Zakharov. - I am sure, for such forgeries auction houses need to be judged" . However, until the question on which side will rise a British court in the "Odalisque" remains open.
   

   DICTIONARY

   Antiques - Cultural property created by more than 50 years ago, include the values associated with historical events in the life of nations, the development of society and the state-va, history, science, art and technology, as well as the life and de-yatelnosti great personalities; objects resulting from excavations, paintings and drawings produced entirely by hand, original art compositions and montages of special materials, icons and church plate, etchings, engravings, lithographs and original printing plates, traditional handicrafts and other artistic works; coins, medals, photographs, musical instruments.
 

TECHNOLOGY EXPERTISE

   Experts in issuing opinions rely heavily on the results of technological research, but critics may say this is typical thing for the artist or not, and only they have the right to name the author. Art History examination is based on the features, techniques letters of the artist. The technological expertise includes such methods as the study materials of soil and paint layer, the study materials binder, study materials basis. Primer and paint are studied using chemical analysis, infrared and X-rays, which help to see the initial sketches. Different types of paints were invented in the same time. For instance, chemical analysis in the presence of significant amounts of titanium white paint immediately indicates that the paint used is dated 1920's.
 

96 fakes ACKNOWLEDGE original EXPERTS Tretyakov Gallery.
 

HOW Guarding against fakes

   The first and most important rule: be sure to follow the provenance of work. Asking prices for paintings, published in the catalog for the artist's life and exhibiting at trade shows and during the life of the artist.


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The only problem that I see in this picture - is that she write a better Kustodieva ...
Guriev, Igor, this work ("Odalisque") may be better to work Kustodieva if its manufacture has been used well-known work is the same Boris Kustodiev ("Lying model. 1915 paper, colored pencil, sanguine , coal. 47 x 57 cm)? In fact, drawing Kustodieva was mechanically moved (copied) to falshak! I do not see the logic in your words! It turns out that you copied someone drawing Kustodieva better than the original?


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If the High Court of London lawyers from the Fund "Aurora" will result in a similar argument Sokolova, they were nothing but a shameful proygrysha case does not shine. None of the articles on this topic does not answer a simple question - which was viewed by experts buyer before the transaction.
The court will understand and adopt a fair decision, but I would like to finally be "punished" all these bigheads schemers, "experts" change their minds depending on prepay, shelkopery and talking heads of media serving the whole fraternity, headed by the snobby VIP collector.



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a simple question - which was viewed by experts buyer before the transaction
I already wrote about it, but again, repeat. Direct obligation of the prestigious auction house is put up for auction only authentic work. To do this, they have their own specialists, catalogs, library, archives, etc. In special cases involve experts from outside.
Let everyone remember yourself before the auction, which bought the painting. How often have you attracted experts before you buy?
No Vekselberg, nor Aurora Fund did not have to involve experts for the simple reason:

- Christie's - Auction with a sound reputation.
- The picture had a history of selling at the same Christie's.
- Was put up for viewing in Moscow.
- And most importantly, 5-year money-back guarantee, if you have 2 negative examinations.

And even if the pre-auction show would be an expert, how could he be the technical and laboratory study of the paintings, on the basis of which were made questionable conclusions?

Now that the court will oblige Christie money back, then Christie's, probably will return their hard-earned, because the seller has nothing to do with it, he bought the work at the same Christie's in 1989.

In any case, what would we all write and what kind of temperament is not a story would cause among the members of the forum, you must wait for a court decision. Solve-it is not us but them. And the solution can be very, very intrigiruyuschim. And the famous phrase before the court: "And who are the judges?" takes on new meaning: "Experts who?"



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