Margin

[Pavel]

Сообщение от kr555

What's in it to sell some 1 time in 2 days? And most importantly, who they suddenly emerged wealth will buy?
First, there must be a market, then the infrastructure will be a natural way, when it becomes necessary. For the current state of supply and demand and Gelos enough ...

I was recently told the Union that we have too many artists. We still have too many sculptors ... need to enumerate? We fully collectible items in private hands, people who are afraid of these Gelos, etc. They would be happy to have sold a lot of things and do not necessarily antique but very valuable. There is simply no system sales, and talk about the market can be maintained indefinitely. This is a very profitable resellers and all sorts of shady characters remaining from the times.
This leading the auction and in my head, I have the prices that very walrus, the result is totally open manner.

[kr555]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Oh! You now Pavel will draw a diagram!
He does not get used to it ten times then drew a picture of the All-Russian auction trade painting, which involved all segment of the population according to the "tulip" pyramid in the Netherlands in the early XVII century.

Yeah, I see "I've been not so long ago, had never encountered before.

[Вивьен]

This scheme Paul simple:
"For the organization of bidding a lot of money is not necessary, should the premises, administration and the state's interest, which should provide protection and legal side of things. It's all clear, the state is directly interested in the legalization of trade in antiquities, because with each lot selling it will get your percentage. Himself Auction is just a building where the halls and go to bid must be publicly available. This room can ask the government of Moscow. Can you imagine 16 rooms need something to fill. Activities that can be those who can make the collection is the same Gelos, etc. Can some trades hold for various specializations-earth, wine, equipment boo, cars, etc. because for well-to important percentage of the lot. Income individuality. The more the better. "
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...=2665&page=102

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Oh! You now Pavel will draw a diagram!
He does not get used to it ten times then drew a picture of the All-Russian auction trade painting, which involved all segment of the population according to the "tulip" pyramid in the Netherlands in the early XVII century.

Cyril! We've all talked about it and you either can not or will not understand the benefits of that course throughout the world. I bow to you it is not profitable. You would like that all cases go through certain hands, these hands are not interested in the origin we have a normal market.

[kr555]

Сообщение от Pavel

I was recently told the Union that we have too many artists. We still have too many sculptors ... need to enumerate? We fully collectible items in private hands, people who are afraid of these Gelos, etc. They would be happy to have sold a lot of things and do not necessarily antique but very valuable. There is simply no system sales, and talk about the market can be maintained indefinitely. This is a very profitable resellers and all sorts of shady characters remaining from the times.
This leading the auction and in my head, I have the prices that very walrus, the result is totally open manner.

Why be afraid of him, this Gelos? And why is this man not be afraid of something entirely new auction, which suddenly arise? About Gelos, all at least heard of it long ago.
We must have really a lot of artists who want to sell something. And now we have a lot of people would sell their collectibles. Nakollektsionirovali in fat times, and now in a crisis not eat everything. And very few people willing to buy them. So, will sell cheap. And for some reason this one does not agree, they all want for their CHAUVET things get a fortune. I doubt that the new auction here something to help ...

[Pavel]

[kr555]

[Fantozzi]

Let me add a few words to your dispute, dear colleagues. Antiques (artistic), the market was, is and will be. Will leave some buyers and others to come. This will change fashion, styles, etc., but the art remains, and thus remain the one who wants to buy it. I have read analytical information on real estate abroad, why people are eager to buy a house there. Among the major prichn: - tend to get possessive - receiving rental income - reducing the tax burden and others. In the purchasing works of art first and foremost - a passion to possess, that will not go anywhere. Another thing is that market participants should have some agreed that the position of market development for the future - at least 10 years. Meanwhile, as the swan-cancer and pike - the cart will not move.

[Вивьен]

[Fantozzi]

Last year I was in the spring anktikvarnom salon in CHA. On the second floor there is usually sold Soviet art. It was a female art dealer, clearly bored, as visitors were. Conversation. Along with Soviet art she promoted the work of a couple of artists (do not remember the name). The works cost from 20 000 to 50 000 U.S. dollars depending on size. Last year Sovkomovskie auctions - Tyuhtin clearly dump. I remember how she lamented about this, complained that the clients (who of course in the subject) said, why should we for that kind of money to buy modern living and, if Tyuhtina for a quarter of the price can buy the work of the famous and the dead. I remember it well and said: "How long does it take to convince the customers I do not know, but I fear that long."

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