Margin

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Fantozzi

about the site artfact, artnet Mr. Syzranskiy rights, but about arteconomy I use other istochnikom.Sayt www.arteconomy24.ilsole24.com. This site is for investors, which are printed all the news art rynka.Kstati, after the Russian Trading usually printed on the prospects of good analyst of the market, analysis of trades, which left lots of what the buyer's country, etc. All that we have hard to find. On this site fits well with the site www.arsvalue.com. Analytical site that graphically gives the situation on - sales, prices, profitability of investment, etc. In fact, these instruments allow investors (including large banks, which collect the collection and thus differentiate its portfolio) to take decisions on investments on the art market. Such sites exist in all European countries and are similar to stock sites, and analytics. We currently only have an index, but as he raschityvatsya I do not understand. Lack of information on the bidding results to the main auction, the coordinated work of art dealers do not yet permit us to civilize the market, but what we come to that question is no. All respect.

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Sorry wrong. Right www.arteconomy24.ilsole24ore.com.

You see and you came to the same conclusion I did. Everywhere prices are opened and processed and recorded in the catalogs. We are solid temnilovka and apparently someone is profitable, but the goals silly and petty. Snatch cheap.
With the same aim of creating a completely idiotic and ninachem not based rating, whose sole purpose is to tear off with the money for the payment of artists in the rating and selling these stupid books. As we know the rating is the price at auctions, but we simply do not sell.

[artcol]

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Pavel, you would not have "teeth bared," and traveled at least once there, Muscovite.
Art. station "Dinamo" or "Race".
At least learn something new, but you are still under the impression from the trip to France in 1994-th year.


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By the way, Gelos and above all in Paris, is representative:
Representation in Paris:
Paris Office
8, rue Boudreau
75009 Paris
Nearest metro stations: Madeleine, Opera, Havre-Caumartin
Tel.: +33 1 53 43 82 15
Fax: +33 1 53 43 82 11
Gamaley Arthur B.

I did not know, would not write.
I am after having noted that the auctions in the galleries are for sale and auction houses have no relationship and price results of dark and, in my opinion, cheating with tsenami.Auktsion should be independent of galleries and dealers, regular-1 time in two days, it is better public or mixed capital , to take taxes as abroad and enjoying it goszaschitoy to manage the high prices.
The responsibility for collection on the conscience of those who offered for sale.
Ie establish rules and work on them, as in the world.

[artcol]

[Pavel]

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

Do not know, would not write.
I am after having noted that the auctions in the galleries are for sale and auction houses have no relationship and price outcomes dark and, in my opinion, cheating with prices. Auction must be independent from the galleries and dealers, regular-1 time in two days, it is better public or mixed capital, to take taxes as abroad and enjoying it goszaschitoy to manage the high prices.
The responsibility for collection on the conscience of those who offered for sale.
Ie establish rules and work on them, as everywhere.

What do you know? Terms of the auction Gelos? Do not know ...
And second: Gelos, not an auction at the gallery.
And in my opinion, cheating with prices "-prices Gelos posted on the internet on their website.
Gelos holds two shareholders in a week. For Moscow today, this is enough, this is the situation today.
That, incidentally, that on this occasion said Oleg Stetsyura, president of auction house Gelos:

The objective reality is that now, for example, in Moscow, with its 12-13 million inhabitants and visitors of all around 180-200 registered organizations antique market - is a Given how large salons and galleries, and small shops. In St Petersburg - 80, all in Russia - about 400 (For comparison, in London with his 14-th million - about 2 thousand antique shops, auction houses, 40). It is easy to guess that the vast majority of the players involved do not collect ..

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

What do you know? Terms of the auction Gelos? Do not know ...
And second: Gelos, not an auction at the gallery.

Prices Gelos posted on the internet on their website. See, compare ...
Gelos holds two shareholders in a week. For Moscow today, this is enough, this is the situation today.
That, incidentally, that on this occasion said Oleg Stetsyura, president of auction house Gelos:

Gelos sells its collections and works as a pawnshop as an auction when charges are at the store. What are the major products sold in the Gelos at international prices. And do not advertise Gelos. He already has a reputation.
Keep the artists behind the fools, bad manners.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

Keep artists for fools, bad manners.

Artists? What is art?
With me talking a single person in the subject of the auction trade, but that year is an important kind of maestro is trying to "teach" the forum ...

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Сообщение от Pavel

What are the major products sold in the Gelos at international prices.

By painting the author calls:
Aivazovsky, Bogolyubov, Repin, Fyodor Vasilyev, Savrasov, Polenov, Shishkin, Makovsky, Kiselev AA, Levitan, Claude, Kryzhitsky, Somov, manure, Huon, Zarubin, Kustodiev, Bakst, Benois, Voloshin, Exter, V. Yakovlev , Gorbatov, S. Vinogradov, Clover, Roubaud, Zhukovsky, Byalynitsky-Biryulya, Burlyuk, Malevich, Anisfeld, Baranov-Rossine, Sychkov, Corinne, Tyshler, Popkov ...
After selling out the entire Gelos Incombank.
And yet.
The most expensive icon of all that ever officially sold in Russia, and an example of one of the most expensive auction sales in the world, is sold in the beginning of 2007 at the Gelos icon of St. Nicholas in the Life "of the late XV in. for 7,000,000 ($ 274,000).

[kr555]

Сообщение от Pavel

auction should be independent from the galleries and dealers, regular, 1 time in two days,

And what is it to sell something 1 time in 2 days? And most importantly, who they suddenly emerged wealth will buy?
First, there must be a market, then the infrastructure will be a natural way, when it becomes necessary. For the current state of supply and demand and Gelos enough ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от kr555

And most importantly, who they suddenly emerged wealth will buy?

Oh! You now Pavel will draw a diagram!
He does not get used to it ten times then drew a picture of the All-Russian auction trade painting, which involved all segment of the population according to the "tulip" pyramid in the Netherlands in the early XVII century.