Question on sales prices of paintings

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от uriart

And if there is no sign of what this means?
This probably means that there is no point in buying this work, as well as invest in them are not interested?

You are mistaken. If there is no indicator, this means that it could not see the experts who in a particular direction or in the expert advice no expert in this area and the artist. In general, indicators of investment risk - this is an expert opinion or the amount of views. And about how they interpret written here: http://artinvestment.ru/about/risk_indicator/

[Прохожий]

Сообщение от artcol

Buy from living artists or by their heirs. In all other cases there is no 100%guarantee - examples are known.

artcol, you say "Buy from living artists or their heirs have, but this is not a panacea. I know a once-respected Moscow artist very old age, which in recent years baluetsya that creates "the author repeats" its the same things 40-60's. Who had long since sold, and sells them as starye.Problema in that the hands and eyes is not what they were fifty years ago, and his fresh работки quite weak. It is surprising that some professionals do not see this, and similar crafts appear fresh, even in some auction catalogs.
However, when I once told him their outrage about this, he said, "The artist has the moral right of the author's repetition, but how to date it - it's his (the artist) a private matter." As you are such a passage?

[uriart]

Vladimir,
Footnote that I looked carefully and answer to your question there, I did not find.
This is specially looked Sotebis and such a picture.
240 lots total, only seven with the signs of investment risk.
So that leaves no expert or experts have not reviewed? As it is illogical. The seven works have seen a 233 no?

[Konstantin]

At the same time, when I once told him their outrage about this, he said, "The artist has the moral right of the author's repetition, but how to date it - it's his (the artist) a private matter." As you are such a passage?

Surname not call? It would be useful in all senses.

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If I understood correctly about the signs of investment risk, the risk of large red-, green-low?
And if there is no sign of what this means?
This probably means that there is no point in buying this work, as well as invest in them are not interested? That's not to say that the work is not genuine?
After all, as I understand, we are talking about investments and not about authenticity?
Or am I mistaken?

Yes, the icons in the first investment. Recent example is discussed painting Archipenko - "Torso". It has a yellow indicator as to buy at the declared estimate 300 - $ 400 so do not need. However, it is authentic.
In practice on indicators yields the following.
- Green - all is well with expert opinion that the present (90%as the picture all the same. Although that is just a great painting) the price is normal.
- Yellow /empty - most often a lack of information on the attribution or inflated price.
- Red - a signal to treat the work very carefully. Have questions of attribution and the inflated price.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от passers 116395

As you are such a passage?

This is a simple forgery of paintings and all.

Сообщение от passers 116395

like fresh crafts appear even in some of the auction catalogs.

I wonder where?

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от uriart

So that leaves no expert or experts have not reviewed? As it is illogical.

At the time of publication of indicators of risk were for 8 works for Sotheby's, 14 per Chistie's and 15 on MacDougall's - all while 37 works. This is not a lot, but in the field of view usually get things in which there are nuances and the indicators they need in particular.

[iosif]

pedestrian,
I know exactly the same, but not in Moscow. He generally "excellent" was prepared: the canvas, and paint from old stocks. False, only the date of writing works.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от passers 116395

"the artist has the moral right of the author's repetition, but how to date it - it's his (the artist) a private matter."

Maybe he's right?

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Message from passers
"the artist has the moral right of the author's repetition, but how to date it - it's his (the artist) a private matter."

Maybe he's right?

Actually the sort of thing very often spread when the artist returns to the subjects of his youth and put early dating. Rather, it is not even a commercial gimmick, but a way to correct the mistakes of youth, back in time, to say that that's how I doldzhen was then draw. In my opinion, so did Burliuk, Goncharova back to the old ideas, so many people ...

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от passers 116395

the last few years baluetsya that creates "the author repeats" its the same things 40-60's. Who had long since sold, and sells them as old.

And I know him! But in absentia. Exactly the same question (about repetitions) he asked my friends in Moscow. I got exactly the same answer. This artist has successfully sold (and sold) on Sovkome. And by the way a great artist! If we are certainly talking about the same artist. I have several of his paintings early 1970-ies I hope that their fresh copies have not yet appeared Although you never know ...