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Art Kaleidoscope Interesting and relevant information about art. Discuss general art issues and any topics not covered in other forums. It’s only about art — love, politics, sports, hobbies etc. are discussed in “Chatter”.

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Старый 19.05.2010, 00:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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How do we get just make if we did not learn and do not know how to draw, sculpt, carve? Announce that we have stated, but a naked king of this will not be dressed up.
The answer is simple: you have to learn not to paint, sculpt, cut , and to sell, spin up, etc. Actually debates on the topic "Who are the main: the curator (dealer, agent) or the artist?" maintained for a long time, but it is in a situation Sovrem. art under him would be to put a fat point: curator=artist. Exactly between the skills of a curator and artist the difference faded completely.

Lots of other examples: Kulick and Hurst, Gelman and Saatchi. And those and others need more to be able to work and media space than with paints, clay, consumers and critics. Looking for events, rather than the product with aesthetic properties.



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Старый 19.05.2010, 01:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Looking for events, rather than the product with aesthetic properties.
In my humble opinion here, too, about this
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If art entirely subjective, nothing prevents you catch the red-haired cockroach and declare it a work of art. Even before this does not necessarily paint it and dress the pink cobweb - enough vision and creative will of the artist. (But if your artistic temperament would still require to cover the object with cobalt blue and call it "Blue Bird", the intrigue will only steeper.)

Of course, proponents of the objectivity of art jeopardize your masterpiece creations. Well, skeptics demonstrate objective artistic status beast will not be difficult: it is enough proeksponirovat it in the gallery. And it does lead the argument will be selling the insect as an art object. For the right objective judgments about artistic value now belongs only to the global art market: if your art cockroach left more shark Hirst or Dali paintings, your glorious name of diamonds lay out on the tablets of history of art. (You will not succeed this trick? "So you're mediocre, and in art you do nothing.)

Documentation of the circumstances of capture and genetic examination of your artifact will provide its unique and will protect against forgery. Of course, you have attached to the red-haired envoy Mesozoic concept is so complex, original and profound (and what you are actually worse than Maeterlinck's mysticism with its execution of the works of God's creatures such as termites, ants and bees?) That a) recognizes Vladimir Chernomashentsev that will never be able to create something similar, and b) would motivate other members of the Topeka to divine transcendence. And then everyone will have to admit: in front of us cockroach, subjective, objective, and any other artistic significance whose unshakable and undeniable.

And Lepo will - of harm productivity of future discussions on the essence of art - to take the infamous cockroach as a reference model, ideal representativeness desired substance. As well as a chorus to perform Spanish national anthem, this model glorifying - La Cucaracha (cockroach).
I understand, my question is how long-lasting, this situation
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We find that our cockroach while firmly stands to museum cabinet, reflecting a mustache collective attack.
Is there a terminator?
Let me suggest a can Terminator this time?



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Старый 19.05.2010, 01:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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In my humble opinion here, too, about

I understand, my question is how long-lasting, this situation will allow myself to assume a can Terminator this time?
Yes, Art Lover all cool and very vividly described!
As for the Terminator's hard to say ... While the question was Art Lover you can see the answer.

Its the same answer to this question (or rather not answer, but the position or understanding of the situation for taking this issue), I found a Marshall McLuhan, Canadian philosopher (to him, in fact, refer http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan ). Actually, my opinion in the end is this: in these phenomena are different ontological foundations, and what they are denoted by one word (art, art) - a source of confusion. The fundamental reason (indication) for the classification McLuhan defines a property of media, ie suitability for mass media to interact with them. If the mind to distinguish between these two arts, all ustakanivaetsya. one write, two in my mind




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