What is art?

[Peter]

Сообщение от Art-lover

For the right objective judgments about artistic value now belongs only to the global art market:

It's very tempting assertion, I do dumal.Vrode slozhivshaesya as the market price of the product is an objective indicator " quality art. "On the other hand the market reflects only the degree of attractiveness of investment in this facility, and about any artistic merit is not govorit.Bolee He equates the art as such and skillful art dilerom.A this subjectivity in kvadrate.Pro like a cockroach.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Oh! The new definition of art. Paraphrasing Marxism-Leninism:

The Art - is a subjective reality given to us in sensation.

[Peter]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Oh! The new definition of art. Paraphrasing Marxism-Leninism:

The Art - is a subjective reality given to us in sensation.

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Oh! The new definition of art. Paraphrasing Marxism-Leninism:

The Art - is a subjective reality given to us in sensation.

In my opinion, this definition is acceptable attributed solely (exclusively) to the works of socialist realism.

And what about the Master and Margarita? From Malevich? Where reality and does not smell.
Well, well.

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

No, not work.
Catch a million cockroaches of the same species and same size, painted them the same patented paint a la "Yves Klein, one of the banks, we get a million copies. Or you can recognize all these cockroaches in the face? Yves Klein does not recognize.

These counterarguments devotes the third paragraph in my post.

Сообщение от Art-lover

See

Pay attention to the conceptual (spiritual, if you like) component of the provenance of our facility.
Returning to the criterion of "I am so I can not": this is a private modification (and contradictory) the general principle of "like - art, not like - not art." These heuristic approaches can be used for the selection of works in its collection, but not the search for essence.
In fact, as we have, that of Duchamp's urinal can not amputate the artist Duchamp's urinal without causing fatal injuries. And it is not humane.

Сообщение от sur

I think the subjective opinion of the majority of participants vyshevyskazyvayuschihsya talk about recognize or not recognize Prussian work of art, lean in the direction of his denial.
N E T - cockroaches and galleries.

"Cubektivnoe opinion" - is by definition opinion unit of the subject. And in the subjective model of art - because of it dealt with - statistics votes "for" and "against" deliberately superficial views of the artist.
Conducting PR-action "NO - cockroaches in the galleries, of course, will be included in the program display Cucarachas - and charged Oleg Kulik .

Сообщение от Peter

On the other hand the market reflects only the attractiveness of investment in this facility, and about any artistic merit does not mean

Not all obviously, obviously. Theorists talk about objectively formed an autonomous system of contemporary art, which operates independently of our will, unconscious way forcing us your criteria. There are opinions that the system - the flesh of the flesh of the globalized market. If there even a grain of truth, then the market need not extend over the artist. merits, when he can secretly adjust our views on these advantages.

We find that our cockroach while firmly standing on a museum pedestal, reflecting the mustache collective attack.
Is there a terminator? <!--~ 10 ->

[Peter]

Сообщение от Art-lover

 Theorists talk about objectively formed an autonomous system of contemporary art, which operates independently of our will, unconscious way forcing us your criteria. There are opinions that the system - the flesh of the flesh of the globalized market. If there even a grain of truth, then the market need not extend over the artist. merits, when he can secretly adjust our views on these advantages.

Based on that promise, that the perception of art (in other words, the artistic merits) is a subjective thing, then here I think is difficult to adjust the point of view on the other hand dostoinstva.S secretly easily adjust investment appeal of a product (as many galleries and engaged ). Because there is globalization of the market in which demand is determined by a lot of money to get even larger. (If there is no demand, it's easy to create by investing in a nn-yu sum, what we saw in the "post-Soviet contemporary art ") Cockroaches will not only stand, but also fruitful.

[sur]

Сообщение от Peter

Cockroaches will not only stand, but also fruitful.

  
  How human was Malevich painting your box.


  It appears to give a definition of art, to avoid falling into his field of sharks and cockroaches, we can not ?

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Сообщение от Peter

Cockroaches will not only stand, but also fruitful.

Cockroaches have left many cities in Russia. Lost.
I never liked them, but now feel sorry for them: where they are, poor things, build something?

[sur]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I never liked them, but now feel sorry for them: where they are, poor things, build something?

 
According to our heads scattered .

Now without them nowhere, where we go and cockroaches .

And dichlorvos not vospolzueshsya, they now can be killed only himself poisoned .

Now that the shark in formaldehyde, cockroaches - in the galleries.

[tchaika]

Interesting character - Mr. Mark Restellini. Founder and Director of the new private museum Pinakothek in Paris, art historian, art critic. I was at his conference and noticed his independence in his judgments. Among the questions he was asked, was this: "You seem not particularly interested in" modern art "(" art contemporain "). Why not? "
Answer: "Yes, of course, good artists. Sometimes I see something remarkable. But when I come to Fiac (Contemporary Art Fair in Paris), I have become discouraged by the level of works. All repeat: "This Fiac remarkable". And if you argue, you find a fool. For example, I am not interested in Jeff Koons (Jeff Koons). I tell you this frankly, and this is what many think, not daring to say. "