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Старый 10.11.2008, 14:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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"Examination of artistic values in terms of antiquarian"
Article is good, in principle, all pravilno.Statya mainly on the museum's examination.
  Art Consulting, what does a museum expert?
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Who is Viktor Lebedev? The site ARTinvestment.RU: list of members of the International Confederation of antique and art dealers for professional section http://artinvestment.ru/about/icaad/icaad_members/
Lebedev is-Antique Salon "Russian Seasons".
http://www.ruseasons.ru/
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Старый 10.11.2008, 15:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Eugene,
Here, I probably should apologize. I mixed up the story and responded in a similar paragraph. My speech dealt with presentations by representatives of the Confederation, the last of which I listened carefully to the conference investment in art, in the Marriott. I read the article more closely and in principle it is very different from previous ones.

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My dear, are you talking about?
Here Freud .. how are your plans?
I have no such plans, but I always wanted to see on the side of the Confederation of enterprising people, such as, for example, are on this forum. And I meet, as a rule .... OK, Let it all. It's a shame that many of the problems in the market could be solved together, but that both sides should be open position and the desire to change the situation.



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Старый 10.11.2008, 15:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Art Consulting, Write more, you also run the talented professionals, and many on the forum (70-80%) are interested in a professional approach to the attribution of paintings, antiques. Fresh information on the technological expertise (not just painting, but like metal, etc.), articles from foreign sources, all of this is not enough.
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Старый 11.11.2008, 23:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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I love science filosofiyu.Prekrasnaya worthy minds chelovechestva.Esche prefer to apply this knowledge to praktike.Kratkaya history of expertise and the attribution of Yu.Klevera senior, or may be lost in three sosnah.Imena and the names were not disclosed, in order not to confuse the Our ryady.Dogadaytes sami.V single entity which is engaged in the examination, and attribution has been brought to my work Klever-winter, more than a meter, and the authenticity hristomatiynaya.Somneny at first glance not vyzyvala.Datirovana beginning 20v.Pri of technological expertise, it was found that signature marked "dry" colorful sloyu.Podpis pozdnyaya.Krakelyury aging of the paint layer and the signature odnovremenny.Uzhe soul for such work lezhit.Rabota not returnable, deposit in full salone.Priglashayut a lady made up of distinguished experts to write the attribution and it hudozhnika.Priglashayut confirms the authorship of another lady, the same is very respected and it is not confirmed, referring to the signature on the "dry". I was even more nastorazhivaet.I born here in some expert circles are new or well-forgotten old version that Clover signed his work only "on the wet, colorful layer. Version is the development of the same council of experts concludes that the clover after 1890 generally did not write, she worked studiya.Otkryvaem magazine Antiques number 3 "for 2005 page 67 article by Elena Nesterova's" Around Yu.Yu.Klevera.Tsitata "For recent years clover rare paintings were entirely written by him, usually rabotalagruppa less talented artists (Rosen, Obolensky, etc.) They are preparing now, as an amendment to Clover and Clover podpisyval.Podlinny-rare. "Naturally, with such works, where not only use art materials and signs of aging, but the signature is stamped on the wet colorful layer speaks for the clover to understand the author's incredibly trudno.Ispolzuya artel method, the artist himself the fruits of their imitators and double back. "At present, the Sotheby's or Christie played for three of the Klever with attribution Yu Clover and studiya.Na Uppsala-one "Autumn" previously sold "attributed Clover." Question from the audience? "There is generally somewhere in this Clover? experts in Russia are afraid of his works" like the devil incense. "By the way in the cabin" Russian Seasons "hung two of Klever dry podpisyami.V art studio Centaur I saw a few years ago Klever work with dry, with a signed opinion Grabarya.Rabotu I returned with the attribution of authenticity, with the money all right People here poryadochnye.A heart precipitate ostalsya.Ne know or do not know how?? I, for a museum expert, scientifically based and razvernutuyu.A actually the conclusion of the work should provide expert advice in the form of a protocol, a copy attached to the conclusion . Examination of the serious work will have a duration of up to six months, and even bolshe.Stoit be from 5000 to 10000 tys.u.e. regardless of rezultata.Togda probably will not be issues.



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In carrying out technological expertise, it was found that the signature is marked "dry" colorful sloyu.Podpis pozdnyaya.Krakelyury aging of the paint layer and the signature are simultaneous.
Well-known, though not decisive, as is sometimes believed, the value is the location of the signature: if it is under the varnish, or affixed on top of it, that is, how closely linked it with the original painting.
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painted under a layer of old varnish signatures and inscriptions can sometimes be detected by infrared rays. It must, however, to stress once again that the identification of the old signature, even under the account or under the other signature is not necessarily indicative of its authenticity. Intentional slight brushing false signature - a well-known method counterfeiters, calculated that the signature will be "accidentally" found during the washing of painting and confirm the "authenticity" paintings.
An important point in the process of studying the paint layer is to determine its safety. What is it explorer - with the author's paintings or her likeness recreated hand restorer, which plots painting survived intact, and which are rewritten? Needless to say, how important it is to get the correct answer to such questions in the course of, for example, the attribution of the painting.
Determination of safety of the paint layer would be best to start with his views in light of the visible luminescence, excited by ultraviolet radiation. If the picture in the light of luminescence emitted uniform milky-blue light, in which the image appears as a disguised transparent cigarette paper, one can conclude that the painting is well preserved. Some dark spots on the background luminescence lacquer surface may indicate worn or partial loss of lacquer on the small retouch on stony ground and breaking the paint layer. Lots of paint layer subjected to restoration records and toning lacquer surface, clearly visible in the light of luminescence by visual inspection pictures and photos in the form of dark spots showing the location and size of records. We can distinguish toning and under a layer of varnish: if the latter is not very thick and not too decomposed, such toning look much paler than that made by polish .. http://www.art-con.ru/node/288
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But expert opinion-Petrova V. (signature on dry, or over the varnish).
Technology, as a blood test, only an aid to the diagnostician. Technological scheme - canvas, the nature of the soil, drawing, color, general methods of constructing the paint layer is very similar for many artists, especially - academics XIX century that the German, that the Danish, that Russian. Radiograph is not always without a range of other studies, may give the correct result. For paintings Levitan, for example, is characterized by several types of X-rays. As the signature - that's at least a Surikova almost any signature "hanging" on the varnish. So if you rely on it, all our Surikov have a museum pass. But some artists - such as Kuindzhi and Vasily Vereshchagin - almost all are signed, and signature on any sketch not so much convincing as alarming .
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Eugene thanks! I personally know a VP I know his opinion and very prislushivayus.Popovodu museum work, the issue never has and never will is the reference. "Late" signature is on the varnish and the time of its application can calculate, there are nuances and secrets that experienced technologists are well znayut.Klever was a commercial artist, he wrote the work, and immediately exhibited it at prodazhu.My are talking about the examination of works of clover.



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