How to unleash the artist

[Yurko]

And yesterday evening turned into English the theme of this forum .. and I came out the mass of interesting information .. Books .. the same in my opinion seminal instructions .. read something .. abstract of good moments .. was familiar with the system of expressions of self-promotion ( of greeting cards and gift wrapping .. to ryuzeme, brashyur, catalogs and phone calls), raising the cost of the work of the artist, working in the media ... showing some work in sketches and drawings based on which amounted to a series of sketches in style and subject, put the artist as a some kind of label .. but so that he for a long time ostaetsya attention.
 Did you know that in Japan there are institutions studying magazines technical innovations from around the world? " Well collect these masses .. and ..
And at the expense of London, I think there is steeper than .. say .. the experience in Moscow, they have maybe more .. at the expense of Contemporary Art .. ".. yes, even Russian and purchasing power of the above .. vsezh capitalism developed ...

[noart]

Сообщение от Seriy

noart, should rejoice ANY promote artists from the CIS on the world market. Does this "Triumph", Salakhova or Sviblova, or someone else all thanks! Because the AEC will be sold or Koshlyakov actively behind them stretched loop of dozens of other artists from the CIS.
Creating new names, a lot of work and for her, too, need to say thank you. Mach? excellent! Gapchinskaya? great! they stimulate purchases, and thus raise the overall market, lead new customers.
So I do not understand your skepticism. You may not like a certain artist, well, so in the wake of interest to them to promote their artists that you like.

Not exactly.
Art. business is a business like oil - energy - metal and so on.
But it's true everywhere in the world, but not in our countries. Our art. Business confused and develops spontaneously. There is no state support, as there are, for example, in Germany - Britain - America - France - and so on.
Our rulers do not understand that if you support the Art. business, it can bring huge revenue to the state. And it does not need a pipe - well, and so on. What one can say if Putin poses up against horrific pictures))))
In the west, very clearly worked out technology public relations and promotion of artists (I mean in this concept - painting - sculpture - photography - and so on)
That's the main problem and difference of our device art. Business and west.
And if any, is artificially promoted our artist put up for auction and sold for $ 1000000 - it buys you a rich man in our country - and that means money spent on this purchase (for the sake of ratings ephemeral) remain in the West - the artist gets pennies, as owner works just flattered that he had piloted a thing))) But this is a profanation and only.
You do not have nothing to understand that to understand - where the money goes Hirst - Rauch - Rauschenberg - Gormley - Koons - and where the money goes Pinchuk - Abramovich, etc.
This is a very significant factor that so far our market is reminiscent amateurish and is only laughter.
And I assure you that the Russian and Ukrainians are able to make good quality art that will be really competitive on the world market. But we only see those whom we represent galleristy -)))
So it is not so simple.
I am pleased to see that in America admires Ovechkin - Malkin - but for some reason, I did not notice that admired Dubosarsky and Kulik.
Everyone works off the money - Sviblova trying to take - energetically promoting those for whom it paid, as tar will write to anyone who will pay - (
Everything moves spontaneously and chaotically.

[Pavel]

I can tell how the State can get income from trading on the art. This is a tax on the sale of each item. Ask a purchase. In England the tax of 50%. If the tax is 35%sdkelat ....

[noart]

Сообщение от Pavel

I can tell how the State can get income from trading on the art. This is a tax on the sale of each item. Ask a purchase. In England the tax of 50%. If the tax is 35%sdkelat ....

To start, the State must do something for the domestic arts.
But I assure you that this is fiction. Always our art standing alone. We came up with his idols - which are also for the domestic market. You do not wake deny that Kirkorov Bilan demand in the West? So all that is associated with art. Although you can create and maintain any direction in the art and it is booming in the world. But who does not.
I assure you that we take in the west - as a source of income, not as different. Why is that? Because everywhere and all - every man for himself.
Each imagines himself a genius - but why, then it's genius runs in the domestic space. I have often compared the approach to the art for them and us. Very big difference. What can I say, if the bulk of artists do not generate ideas - and try to repeat the already made to them *
No fair and not biased estimates of the artist - though where he is, even if our critics cite, and pores over Western art. His vision is not and just do not have a mechanism for the movement of its own product.

[Seriy]

noart, why are the same, the state spends on culture, including in hard. Large exhibitions and participated in international festivals partially paid by the state. There are some projects, for example, Perm. Or a list of projects for which the state grants.
In the West a lot of money from his patronage. Nashchi rich believe that they will live forever. Second pair of generations and the rich realize that they are mortal, will spend.
It is important to understand that neither there nor here at an empty place no one will give money.
Money given by the artist already implemented or socially significant projects.
You praises West ... well, Nata here in the UK, describes his attempts to obtain matpomoschi-that, better than ours? We even flow of securities do not have ready to get the waiver.
Russian proverb under rolling stone gathers no moss - just apply in this case. Slide the stone make a successful project and you will flow feeble stream of life-giving moisture.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Seriy

Russian proverb under a rolling stone gathers no moss

Lagging behind, Seriy, now they say "Under the recumbent painter brandy is not flowing." - make a successful project and you will flow feeble stream of life-giving water.

[noart]

Сообщение от Seriy

noart, why are the same, the state spends on culture, including in hard. Large exhibitions and participated in international festivals partially paid by the state. There are some projects, for example, Perm. Or a list of projects for which the state grants.
In the West a lot of money from his patronage. Nashchi rich believe that they will live forever. Second pair of generations and the rich realize that they are mortal, will spend.
It is important to understand that neither there nor here at an empty place no one will give money.
Money given by the artist already implemented or socially significant projects.
You praises West ... well, Nata here in the UK, describes his attempts to obtain matpomoschi-that, better than ours? We even flow of securities do not have ready to get the waiver.
Russian proverb under rolling stone gathers no moss - just apply in this case. Slide the stone make a successful project and you will flow feeble stream of life-giving water.

Unfortunately, you do not understand what I wrote above.
Of course, if you have the budget and the Ministry of Culture - of course, that you spend on it. But I will not write about it.
Very powerful competition, and, unfortunately, we lose in this competition. On the scene apparently untwisted Western artists (and this is a fact that there is no use denying it). What can we resist the Japanese - the British - Germans, American, etc.? If we also generate demand for them, putting in their money. I can hardly believe that a strong art dealer put the money in our art.
This just come for the money - bringing with them their art - they are not our interest.


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Сообщение от dedulya37

left behind, Seriy, are now saying, "Under the recumbent artist cognac does not flow. - make a successful project and you will flow feeble stream of life-giving water.

"not a fact ... ... ... if you are not a holder, will have two options - either you are ignored, or simply steal the idea and present as their .))))

[Konstantin]

I can tell how the State can get income from trading on the art. This is a tax on the sale of each item. Ask a purchase. In England the tax of 50%. If sdkelat tax 35%

Pavel, do not even know what to say ... This naivete? Or sabotage?
It speaks only about what you do not imagine how much tax now. Sami is paying? Only on TV do you hear that we have the smallest? 13%sentimental that you pay?

noart I do not understand what you write

I can assure you that we take in the west - as a source of income, not as a different way.

This is about what?
Some moaning about the state, even funny, sorry of course. As children, if so, with no state can not, then at least suggest that it should? Money to give? Who? Who will decide? The official, honest and fair?
And everything you want from gosudastva?

[SAH]

Сообщение от Konstantin

noart I do not understand what you write

I think that he himself does not understand, this is the way the rules of the forum is not spelled

[Seriy]

noart, the picture is not gazoprod can be done by one person at low cost. Leo Tolstoy's no unraveled, and he a symbol of the writer in the world in general. No one is trying to score Chekhov, on the contrary, put and call on all countries and continents.
 Our artists seem so bad, because they are weak. Invest in weak gosdengi artists this current disgrace.
And why do you West? and here is full of money from people. If there is a chance for Russian artists, it is only here on the spot.
As for clips, you exaggerate all very ghostly, the people at either of the Russian artist sovriska not go. And not a single Russian artist sovriska not so many works, such diversity, such coverage, like Hirst or Picasso, to make resonant exhibition. The last native artist, which went on-Picture.