Продам: Dutch School

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An artist or artist circle Judith Leicester

between the years 1630-1635.

Oil on canvas, 43h27, see

Price USD 32 tons

[sergejnowo]

Dutch, interestingly, arguments based on what you mentioned the price of 32.000 $?

[Dutch]

Price is based on the results of similar sales, minus 30%

[sportsmen]

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Price is based on the results of similar sales, minus 30%

O-ho! Means "similar sale was more than $ 40.000 " And this is a picture of an unknown artist, which is the usual banal portrait of a young lady

p.s. On any European auction, or in any European antique shop is full of this stuff, starting from 200 euros up to 1000. No value these portraits of unknown persons from anonymous artists do not represent. And there is no demand for them there.

[Eriksson]

sportsmen, tell me, please address the bench, where the 17 th century Dutch portrait sells for 200 euros.
Thank you in advance ...

[sergejnowo]

Eriksson,

http://kunst.shop.ebay.de/Gemalde-17...=p3286.c0.m282

Every week, leaving a couple of dozen portraits within 200 -1000 euros.

Vendors tend to antiquarians.

[Eriksson]

sergejnowo, you are aware, I do not visit eBay ...
"but as a time to see on your link on decent clothes and decent prices.
A litter of 50 dash 200 euros and we have all the electronic flea market filled up.

[Dutch]

If you have noticed, this picture is fairly attributed. If it says "unknown artist" and all, then it would be and it was the work of an unknown artist. And such a thing as "circle" rather correctly assumes specific authorship. Given that the Dutch 17 th century, painting was a common profession, then this job could belong to the very brush and Leicester, and her pupil, and perhaps her husband, her friends, and even her maid ...

"Is the usual banal portrait of a lady"

I do not know whether you can even call banal, Dutch portrait, even if it is not Kranarh not Terborch and Van Dijke? A little more in my life to such platitudes may be living on another.
Frankly, the picture was brought from Europe, from Prague for resale, and was chosen sufficiently competent specialist in Dutch art. A was chosen this work as any product of value for money, knowing the quality of it as the artistic merits of this portrait. But beating a unspecified number of antique shops, none, I unfortunately did not offer a portrait of the Dutch 17 th century for 200 euros.
And for the gem: "And there is no demand for them there." Athlete separate Respect

[Евгений]

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If you've noticed that this picture is fairly attributed.

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artist or artist circle Judith Leicester

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was chosen sufficiently competent specialist in Dutch art.

How does a specialist? Museum worker, art historian, just a dealer?
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Attribution, provenance write a detailed picture, and then once per 30,000 cu .. n \\\\ x
 is not serious. Here's the upcoming auction on Sotheby's to 1000-3000 prices can pick up interesting portraits of the 17 th century http://www.sothebys.com/app/ecatalog...nt_id=30328#/r = index-fhtml.jsp? Event_id = 30328|r.main = event.jsp? event_id = 30328 /

[sportsmen]

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If you've noticed that this picture is fairly attributed.

Which one? You? I will tell you a secret: even in Europe, now the modern attribution - Filkin diploma. It is one thing, if some very well known in art circles, which operate Sotheby's, Christie's, makes the attribution (which also is no guarantee). And another thing, if any art from the street makes the attribution, which according to the customer put it any expert opinion. The main thing is that the client paid. A right "conclusion," he writes. And as this picture, it can be even not 17 th century, and centuries later.

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If it says "unknown artist" and all, then it would be and it was the work of an unknown artist. And such a thing as "circle" rather correctly assumes specific authorship. Given that the Dutch 17 th century, painting was a common profession, then this job could belong to the very brush and Leicester, and her pupil, and perhaps her husband, her friends, and even her maids ...

Any bookseller will tell you a similar picture of bike: from the circle of world-renowned masters, "or" one of the disciples of the great master. " Worthless to these empty statements that are other than smiles nothing else is.

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I do not know whether you can even call banal, Dutch portrait, even if it is not Kranarh not Terborch and Van Dijke?

All is not gold that glitters. Each European country was the artist. But not every European European village was Rembrandt.

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Frankly, the picture was brought from Europe, from Prague for resale, and was chosen sufficiently competent specialist in Dutch art.

Any seller importantly vtyuhat their goods generously advertising its greatest advantages. Such "qualified experts" for every antique shop in all the flea markets of Europe simply lot of. And they say sets the standard cliches - they say, allegedly, this unknown artist himself Grand Master was once a young man bred paint and brush dried.

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A was chosen this work as any product of value for money, knowing the quality of it as the artistic merits of this portrait.

Portraits by unknown artists, and still not famous persons DO NOT have a no value and no demand. The portraits are of value and demand in only two cases:

1) The portrait of an unknown artist is very famous historical figures: the king /king /emperor, or at least the Pope.

2) Any portrait of this famous artist's brush

A portrait of an ordinary man brush by an unknown artist - this product is absolutely zero. It only represents the value of its antiquity, and only after any chemical examination of the tissue samples and paint to confirm the period of the century. Allegations of any experts and art historians are unlikely anyone will trust, of course, if this expert is not an internationally recognized authority.

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Any portrait of Grand Master. But beating a unspecified number of antique shops, none, I unfortunately did not offer a portrait of the Dutch 17 th century for 200 euros.

Come to Germany. Or via the Internet. Have a look at the approximate level of prices for old masters, including the 17 Century

http://www.kunstauktionen-duesseldor...g/17/0/6_1_0/2

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And for the gem: "And there is no demand for them there." Athlete separate Respect

Sorry, but you basely cheated "Your picture - at least 19 centuries. And the price of it, if only to find some naive buyers - 100 - 200 euros.