Plein Air to abstract

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от GalARTA

Catherine Tar - thin. critic and art historian, author of numerous works on art history: "The improvisations are still visible silhouettes of boats, soldiers, an angel with a sword, the contour of the Heavenly City, in the compositions of 1909-1912 years - Trumpeting Angels and the Leaning Tower: This is the scene of the Apocalypse, you need a real disincarnation Peace to his new transcendent existence. The collapse indicates the force of distraction from the material, which helps the artist see the light true face of the world ... the degree of abstractness defined here is not the intentions of the artist, but the ability of viewers to the same distractions, the ability to "begin to see clearly the subject."

"The degree of abstraction" (writes Catherine Tar) or, more precisely, a certain degree of abstraction - it is a necessary condition for creating any work of art regardless of whether vested with "the ability to viewer a similar abstraction, the ability to" begin to see clearly the subject "(That's what I've written). Actually, it is somewhat strange, to put the artist and his work in dependence on the level of ability to the perception of the viewer. If Kandinsky and Malevich cared about how viewers perceive their product, they would never have created. The fact of the matter is that they went on netorenoy path, believing in the absolute reliability and relevance of his art.

And the presence of the so-called "degree of abstraction" is not to say that this work is to abstract art. Generally, this statement of Catherine Tar seems to me somehow contrived, it is some kind of superficial.

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Сообщение от GalARTA

Thus, talk about lack of communication with the external and the spiritual world, at least, strange.

I said that the work of abstract art has no analogues in the subject "figurative" world. And the connection "with the spiritual world" I did not say anything at all. All the more so as time is on this link pointed pillars of abstract art. I mean, Malevich, Kandinsky and Mondrian. Through abstract art and they just tried to express the eternal "spiritual essence" underlying "truth of Being," the movement "cosmic forces" as well - the lyricism and drama of human emotions, the tensions of spiritual quest, which can be called spiritual or inner world of human .

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от GalARTA

Dear colleagues, critics and artists! We will be grateful to all who support our project information and simply - a human being. Probably, this kind of experiments and were on the space of our vast country, but we do not know about them. Do not be lazy - let me know. Thanks in advance )))

Your experiment is interesting and legitimate. Kandinsky "waste" of nature in the direction of figurative art is so slow ... The Hermitage near his large abstract painting there are several studies which show how he thought and that is kind to you and called a "series of abstracts. Maybe not on the same landscape, but it was not immediately abstracting ... Later, of course, he did not, but once ... Others some of his contemporaries at first when all was new, did the same.

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от K-Maler

Your experiment is interesting and legitimate. Kandinsky "waste" of nature in the direction of figurative art in this way, slowly ...

Thanks for that comment. In the constant theoretical discourse, which are preferred by some of our readers, we always forget about the essence of our project. He has never been a theoretical, but always lay in the practical field. on the opening day we were talking about our "experimental laboratory". Therefore, I am certainly interested in the analysis of results of specific activities and specific authors. For many participants, Kamenetz epics such work was the impetus for new discoveries. I'm not talking about creativity and personality of Kandinsky, whom we talked constantly. Comprehending the way of this colossus, our artists find their own solutions approach to abstraction, choosing one or another stage of visualization prmezhutochnyh thought forms. The basis of all knowledge is experience - that experience has become our main achievement over the two weeks of work. Only now we can say that happened in the art, but it was not possible, what works ever written are to abstract art, and which remained in the cubist period or semi-abstract.

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Сообщение от Fed

Nicholas beat everyone. Make it more carefully, to name like "The worm eats the snail future history" and a museum-futurism.

Glad - what Kulish made a great "Night Tram"
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At the beginning of the discussion papers have been such a statement FEDa. I think that this can be seen as a result of plein air. Thank you, FED.

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Сообщение от Tiutchev

Your abstraction can not be called abstract art. They are different things indeed. So what are you going to do it soon cubism.

Сообщение от Tiutchev; 1470301"

But what is absolutely unacceptable, because it transformed the landscape into abstraction. Not that it's impossible to try to do, and that this method is not compatible with abstract art. Not everything that is formally similar to abstract art, is not. What offers to make a respected author of this theme, in fact, is a kind of Cubist, or something close to it

Your position is quite clear, thank you.

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Сообщение от Tiutchev; 1514501"

And yet, these are your "abstractive series" series, gentlemen, with all due respect can not be called Abstract art!

them so no one ever called. That would be the same as the name of Kandinsky, Malevich and Mondrian - life members of pure abstraction.


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In concluding this endless theoretical debate, I would like to recall a phrase from his first treatment - from the description of the project:

Сообщение от GalARTA; 1469241"

The main interest for the artists and me as an art - is a series of artistic vision and image of the object to the non-objective, and created in one sitting - two weeks of daily effort and presented a unified visual images

I think that the task we all have accomplished.

[SHCH]

In my vzgyad, called "abstractive series" creates the possibility of such
 interaction of misunderstanding between the opponents of this dispute.
Indeed, the "abstract" is not so much, to put it mildly, that has been done on "open air".
"Series" is also a relative concept.
Was an experimental work, conceived by the author Projects and Objectives
Projects that have been achieved.
 A work of art, or successful, regardless of the degree of abstraction in them, or well-executed illustrations on Projects.
But that's another story and combine concepts within a topic
doubtful.
I wrote "Abstract Series" but meant "abstractive series",
 may inadvertently made a mistake, or maybe "series of abstracts" are also a relative concept,
at least for me as an artist. (I have several warps the word "series"
The main idea that I could not seem to convey, it is not full compatibility issue
of Projects, goals, success and about the works of artists who worked under the Project that how it fit.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от SHCH

In my vzgyad, the name" Abstract Series "creates the possibility of such
interaction of misunderstanding between the opponents of this dispute.

Did "Abstract Series"? Not the "abstractive series" Do?

Сообщение от GalARTA; 1469241"

"abstractive series" are well known to all who himself is an abstraction and considers himself a pro, just not all of their so-called or not always think that they actually wrote .)))

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от SHCH

In my vzgyad, the name" Abstract Series "

This title has never been, a simple slip of the pen.
Victor, please correct my message (in your message in the lower right corner there is a Edit, click on it and edit your text as you like. Then click on SAVE in the same corner.)

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Tiutchev

And yet, these are your "abstractive series" series, gentlemen, with all due respect can not be called Abstract art!

Сообщение от GalARTA

them so no one ever called. That would be the same as the name of Kandinsky, Malevich and Mondrian - life members of pure abstraction.

If you're not called "abstractive series of" abstract art, then I would not have arisen about this objection. Our discussion with you would fail, you do not write these posts:

Сообщение от GalARTA

This year we oprobuem new plein-air - for artists - and fans of avant-garde abstraction. Not a new topic, but in the context of plein air painting sounds different. "Abstractive series" are well known to all who himself is an abstraction and considers himself a pro, just not all of them so called or not always think that they actually wrote.)))
For me, plein air for 11 th, but the first unrealistic. This year brought together several partners (Gala Hotel, HBA, a group of companies, "Hello" and I), which was interesting to see themselves and show the spectators and skeptics that abstract artist actually know how to draw, and realist artists, if they are well taught and they are talented will always be able to create non-objective abstract painting.
The main interest for the artists and me as an art critic - is a series of artistic vision and imagefrom subject to non-objective, and created in one sitting - two weeks of daily effort, and presented a unified visual images of 06/09 pictures (pictures for the photographer). I saw a similar series from the masters in Moscow and the Crimea - it's impressive! I hope that our writers will show the class - this academy abstract of 15 abstracts series.

Сообщение от GalARTA

abstracts SERIES - in my understanding of the term created by - is the iconic series of several works, which demonstrates the process of abstraction of the object (landscape, still life, portrait ..) from the primary realistic images to the maximum (possibly complete) non-objective work.
This series will monitor progress to the author, when under the influence of his moods, emotions, and mastery from the subject of the plot there is motive, and from it an abstraction. Creating a series of abstracts is possible in any technique, I think even in sculpture.

Сообщение от GalARTA

Thanks for the objection. Without them, there is no debate, and without it and did not get to the truth. For his part, I can say the following:
Plein-air - as a form of letters to nature can not be devoid of meaning for anyone. Any artist can create his own netlenki both in the studio and on the air under the influence of the moment and what he saw. abstractionists - the same people and can go from the object, even if they do not set it in the future.

[SHCH]

Сообщение от GalARTA

Dear colleagues and friends! By my calculations, those who really are interested in this subject was typed 32 people! I am a newbie on the forum and do not know - a lot or a little. But the statistics - this is quite enough))). I suggest you identify patterns relating to:
1. - "This painting"
2. - "Abstract art"
3. - To name the top 5 paintings plein air.
4. - Called the best author for visitors.
5. - Indicate the number of abstracts that best demonstrates this notion.

This will be your great help to me as the author of the project and our partners to determine the value created, and of the artists - they are like children - I love competitions, praise and prizes!)))

Cool!)) Artists as children and were happy to travel, gain new experiences and take part in an interesting game, ie Projects. But why do the exhibition,
if you could just put on the site good pictures and a competition, "to determine the value created" and then distribute cakes (praise and prizes!)
Not very well.

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от SHCH; 1528103"

But why do the exhibition,
if you could just put on the site good pictures and a competition, "to determine the value created by"

Victor, the audience at the forum vystvkah and completely different. Who lives in Kiev or in Kamenetz, of course, and do not need the forum to explore our paintings. But questions were addressed to experts and gallery owners, and of course, the audience, since a very long debated the question of art in general. I wanted to make it easier and specific examples to talk about Abstraknyh works that truly succeeded. But while a constructive discussion (which you also wrote) did not work, but people who have great experience of exhibitions, sales, collectibles, able to identify those works that they liked. And the most surprising thing for me - is that like almost everything, can not choose one. Here's an interesting result. Once again confirmed that every author has his own audience!

[тандем]

Message from GalARTA
 
Plein-air - as a form of letters to nature can not be meaningless to anyone. Any artist can create his own netlenki both in the studio and on the air under the influence of the moment and what he saw. Abstractionists - the same people and can go from the object, even if they do not set it in the future.

Everything is new, as always, well-forgotten old.
 Jack Sprinkler, as they called Pollock, was very fond of creating huge canvases spread out to the backyard, where the real-inspiring object was a bottle Jack Daniels ...

Сообщение от GalARTA

But while a constructive discussion (which you also wrote) did not work, but people who have great experience of exhibitions, sales, collectibles, able to identify those works that they liked. And the most surprising thing for me - is that like almost everything, can not choose one. Here's an interesting result. Once again confirmed that every author has his own audience!

A buyer? If not a secret, whether pokupki.A if there were, who was buying? Amateurs, professionals, dealers .....